Emanyalpsid

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  2. Posted · Edited by Emanyalpsid

    47 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

    My sense is that there are some deep concepts being revealed. My sense is that there is a dynamic that is taking "ownership" of these concepts and believes they are true. Attachment to this cognitive dynamic evaporates with direct experience and embodiment.

    Which concepts? Which dynamic? Which ownership? Attachment to this cognitive dynamic? Which embodiment?

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    What you write (and I write) is no more true than a leaf falling from a tree. It is no more true than anything else written on this forum. Yet, I don't sense peace within that. I sense an attachment and belief that what you are writing is true.

     

    What I am writing is just experience, like writing that a leaf falls from a tree. It is true, but the words are empty, just like the leaf falling from the tree. The words are just a manifestation, just like the flower.

    You sense attachment, so this attachment is in you. What are you attached to?

    I myself dwelled in a state beyond non-duality for some time, where I was aware of dependent arising, but I was still attached to consciousness.

    Have you done the inquiry? Everything should be revealed there.

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    28 minutes ago, Mu_ said:

    Im more saying that it's more then just experience, its more then just the answer to the question you posed, its more then any human view on it, its also all those, its the answer, the question and the answering/questioning process.  So when I say all "awakening to nonduality and everything in between experience" is in a way a metaphor that is pointing to an actual, I'm saying just that and simultaneous its more then that and Is that.

    So you are more then experience? Then you don't want to go into the inquiry. Which is fine.

  5. Posted · Edited by Emanyalpsid

    16 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

    There are still subtle distinctions here.

    What do you mean with 'here'?

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    There are no questions or answers when all distinctions collapse.

    That is why it is the final inquiry. After answering the last question, no questions remain. You dissolve (Nirvana) from being one (non-duality).

    Edit: I don't know if you got my starting point. The starting point is non-duality (one), the distinctions have already collapsed.

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    45 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

    @Emanyalpsid Great inquiry questions to reveal emptiness prior to the questions. In that emptiness, distinctions collapse and thought impulses have no more relevance than bird chirps. At that point, trying to find an answer is as silly as trying to find an answer to the question "Tweet, tweeet. . . tweet, tweet, tweet?".

    Indeed, and the emptiness is a big hint to the answers. ;)

    This goes beyond thought.

  7. Posted · Edited by Emanyalpsid

    1 hour ago, Mu_ said:

    In my experience of such things, there isn't a particular "thing" that can be pointed to, to answer such a question. 

    But the experience of them is there, they are there, although they are formless (not manifested). So what are they?

    But you are in the right direction that it is not a particular 'thing', because they are formless they are hard to identify. However, they manifest in form if the conditions are met. A flower is the manifestation of 'is'. If the flower has not manifested because the conditions are not met, it is formless. To use an example with the flower; if you plant the seed you already know that the flower is there, it however has not manifested itself yet (it is formless) because it needs to grow. But you cannot say the flower was never there, it is just formless. So you can plant the seed and let the flower manifest, or you do not plant the seed and let the flower be formless. You know the flower is in the seed. 

    The same goes for consciousness, it can manifest if the conditions are met, which means you identify with it in the mind. It can manifest if a human body grows and identifies with experience. You don't even have to call it consciousness, the identification with experience suffices. But it is the same as with the flower (manifestation), it was already present in the seed (formless). 

    Now we have identified them, still the question remains what they are.

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    Any experience that answers the question is in essence a metaphor for the actual.  Philosophical theory, logical connections, scientific examples can also be useful in this domain to again metaphorically point to a broader encompassment of "what is", because just non-questioning, no-mind and human refereed "direct experience" isn't a full answer either in pointing to Truth of what is....

    You are right in that the words would only be concepts, but they can describe what is happening, that is the inquiry. Like I did above. After the inquiry it can be summarized. Like I said, you must not look for a word or a thing, then you look for form consciousness.

  8. Posted · Edited by Emanyalpsid

    @tedens I already did (posted a link to the topic), but I am interested if someone is willing to inquire into this, as it is the last stage before completely dissolving. Before venturing into the inquiry you are one (non-duality; transcended consciousness), after the inquiry you are none (Nirvana, dissolved, cessation of consciousness).

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    2 hours ago, Elisabeth said:

    @Shroomdoctor I have a facebook group and meetups for 22 people, all basically my friends with interest in self-actualization, everyone highly intelligent, educated, kind, capable of critical thinking and out of their teens (and modest, LOL :D).

    In the short time (4 months) I'm doing this, I had to decide on little issues like: 'Let everyone invite their friends to the group, or should I approve new members?', and 'Should I delete this fun distraction from the facebook page, or let it stand? If I do delete it, is it abuse of power?', and  'Should I set rules, like not letting in people who come late to the meetings?' 

    I became very conscious of competing principles: The need for spontaneity, vs. the need for structure; The need for free expression vs. the need to stay on topic; The need to allow people to co-create the community vs. the need to keep it to my vision; even the need for freedom vs. my needs of comfort running the group (because ultimately, if I let the project expand beyond my limits, I can't lead it and it will likely die, which won't really benefit the people in it).

    Ultimately you have to make decisions that keep the project aligned with your vision, even if you piss some people off. 

    I'm writing this just to say: It must be incredibly hard to set the correct kind of guidelines for the actualized.org forum, and to decide whether these were broken or not. There will be some threshold Leo has for valid vs. manipulative criticism. We can disagree with him on individual cases. 

    I understand though that perhaps a few of them have added up for you to let the forum atmosphere seem off. 

    The vision (ideology) is always the moral problem. The same for Leo. If there is no vision, there is no moral problem.

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    24 minutes ago, Preetom said:

    1)then those words become the real thing?

    2) if it is not spoken about, does that 'thing' get invalidated?

    1. You cannot be in Nirvana without understanding the nature of things. If you understand the nature of things, you can describe them.

    2. If it is not spoken about, it is not spoken about.

    Let's stop with avoiding and questioning the simple questions. If you are fully enlightened, these questions should be relatively easy to answer. Not answering them, but questiong, or ignoring them is just an undermining tactic to not go into the inquiry. So please, either answer the questions or partake in the inquiry.

    You didn't answer the question I posed to you earlier, will you do this?

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    14 minutes ago, ajasatya said:

    no questions and no answers...

    Indeed the answer follows out of the question, but can you answer them? If you have no more questions you must know everything, or you do not want to gain wisdom.

    Now you are just stating the obvious to let us know you are there. 

    So, what is? What typed your post?

  21. Posted · Edited by Emanyalpsid

    I opened this topic to see if someone is willing/daring to test this inquiry. To understand the foundation of the inquiry, you must be beyond the subject-object consciousness (that is why I wrote 'experienced' seekers), which means you must know that we are not looking for words, although the realizations can be put in words. So the point from which you venture should be, that you are left with consciousness and nothing else. Whether you call this consciousness Brahman, non-duality, or absolute infinity, doesn't matter, it has no name, but it is there. You experience it.

    The inquiry has two questions on which you should find an answer. The order of the questions is sequential, so you start with the first question and if you have an answer on that, you start with the second question. If you have completed the inquiry you will understand why it is final. So you look into this consciousness without a name, you don't look for a word in thought. You look into the experience, what is happening. You can describe it and summarize it to form an answer.

    The first question; What is conciousness?

     

    The last question; What is?

     

    If you didn't find the right answer to the first question, you will end up back at the first question if you answer the second question.

     

    Material to help you with the inquiry can be found here; https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/30407-liberation-from-samsara/

    I am glad to help in the best way I can.

  23. Posted · Edited by Emanyalpsid

    20 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

    I didn’t view that thread.

    I only mentioned a few forms of criticism. There is also irrelevant criticism, nonsense criticism and others. 

    Anyone who has been in a close relationship with a hyper-critical person knows the nuances of criticism. 

    As well, working in a career that receives a lot of criticism reveals various dinstinctions. My career involves about 100 wriiten critiques of my performance each year. Some of it is thoughtful, genuine and constructive. Some of it is not useful and can be a distraction from the job at hand.

    Yet, most minds think that *their* criticism of others is super important, accurate and relevant. 

    But you know it is only you who makes this distinction.

    The thing is that Leo cannot check himself, he needs the community to do this for him. You can only look from the inside to the outside, not from the outside within. This would not be a problem if the community was the whole mankind. Like if everybody in the world would be on this forum, then the bullshit would not prevail.

    But this forum is only a small sample of humanity, interested in a specific direction. Besides this, not everybody here has a stable mind and are more easy to manipulate. So I get that Leo can't allow all criticism and closes some topics (someone has to control this beast), but it is important that topics such as this are allowed so that concerns are able to be discussed, in order for Leo to reflect upon. The bigger the community grows, the less important it becomes. The community will then take this role over. Because this is still a relatively small community, it is quite important. If Leo doesn't reflect honestly, then we have a problem.

    At this moment, to me, he seems like a honest guy on a path. He is doing the work. He is human so he can make mistakes, it depends on us if we forgive him or not.

  24. Posted · Edited by Emanyalpsid

    @GabeN Consciousness itself is aware of the soul or consciousness, but it is formless, so you will not find it. :) It is the formless consciousness from which the manifestation of consciousness, or soul, emerged.

    Like the seed from which a flower (soul/ consciousness) grows. You look for the seed, which comes from a flower.  Endless cycle of rebirth.

    @Mikael89 Go experience nature! Spending too much time at your screen only brings depression, confusion and desires. 

  25. Posted · Edited by Emanyalpsid

    16 hours ago, purerogue said:

    Can I ask you , did your mind made up this idea by watching video , or it was something you inquired from mediation? 

    It was something I inquired through meditation.

    There are two questions which seem suitable for inquiry into this. The first; 

    What is conciousness?

    After you have found the answer to this question, you can ask the last question; 

    What is?

    If you didn't find the right answer to the first question, you will end up back at the first question if you answer the second question.

     

    If someone wants to inquire into this, I will be happy to help the best I can.