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    Just now, Member said:

    There's no reason to call it "nothing" just because someone is so eager to kill the ego. Humility is shown, not demonstrated through speech.

    It is funny aswell as beautifully frustrating to speak about this. It is nothing speaking to nothing, all that is happening is nothing. There is no goal, there is no need to show humility, there is no need to be the one who has the truth, this is just what is happening. The dream is that all of this actually matters, that my words matter and that your apparent words matter. The person is living in a prison, spirituality becomes a prison aswell, some words are not true while others are to this funny little person, everything it does is perpetuating seperation. It just moves so eagerly to convince others that it has the truth, or to beg others for the truth, all it can do it take take take in the hope that it actually some day will matter. 

  10. Posted · Edited by traveler

    5 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

    @traveler There is no resistance, but a Will of Being. I'm only letting ya know what 'nothing' actually is. In demonstration.

    How are you going to let something know what nothing is? Something can never know nothing, when the indvidual (something) falls away nothing is recognised. No one knows what nothing is.

    When I say nothing is recognised, it is literal. It isn't nothing (something called nothing) that is recognised, no, it is literally that nothing is recognised. Totally free and open to be whatever. And here "we" apparently are.

  11. Posted · Edited by traveler

    @ivankiss You seem to have a lot of resistance to the word "nothing." It is just a word, you have no idea what it points to and you never will, because it is pointing to nothing. ? Nothing has no charge, it does not exclude anything, it is boundless.

    I do have the sense as you do, that many spits the word "nothing" with only a conceptual understanding that it isn't a thing. In the dream nothing is just a weird koan for the person.

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    1 hour ago, Eren Eeager said:

    Okay but what does it mean then to find,tame and ride the ox 

    Can you explain it from the beginning.

    I have no idea, it is part of the dream of future fulfillment through effort. There is literally nothing to do, because nothing is actually happening. This appearance is not real in the sense that it has consequences and needs to be fixed. Everything is whole, nothing is ever missing, because existence is a dream. The person is total void dreaming existence. There is already nothing, so everything done by the person is reinforcing the dream. Enlightenment is part of the dream aswell. This is whole beyond understanding, it is whole in the sense that there is no other, whatever is, is whole. The person wants enlightenment because it thinks it will improve it's existence, it thinks that enlightenment will bring it peace and will make everyone love it. This is totally outside of that dream and at the same time it is that dream. This is about death and not knowing, following a 10 step program to get to this, is just a joke. 

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    Haven't seen it. But yeah, this is it. But there is no "it". Also it doesn't matter. The whole reality of the seeker is a product of seeking. What is longed for is this without the seeking, but the seeker can't do that, it is stuck in itself. Talking about this might be interesting to some, it obviously is, but when the need to "get" something falls away, the profundity of all spiritual teachings fall away, it did here at least. A children's book is more interesting than listening to someone babble about God and everything, it is the same story repeated, it goes nowhere.

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    It is looking for an escape, it will do that until it doesn't. All of the epiphanies are actually meaningless, they are all small treats for the mind which stops the seeking for a couple of minutes, but it backfires with even more seeking afterwards because it is holding on to a state. What is actually longed for is the end of the search for something else, it uses incredible amounts of energy to make sense out of it's existence, but it never gets a satisfying answer. Because it actually doesn't exist, it is a dream, the dream of a real life and a real world and all of this real stuff. Many are totally immersed in the dream, they know what things are, they are sure that they are real and that this is just how it is. The mystery of this is lost in knowing. How funny is it that you actually think that you know what this is, this has nothing behind it/inside of it, there is no source to which this have a ground/base of knowing. It is totally wild and weird, amazing, and within it a story arises making it seem orderly and known. Nothing will ever fulfill the need that the person has of finding an answer or an end. The end is not a finding, it is the loss of the need to find anything. Thoughts are not the problem, THIS is appearing as a person having problems with thoughts.

  24. Posted · Edited by traveler

    The one who made this topic is not the "one" who got the choice to die. You had no control, you have no control. You did not chicken out, it might have been interpreted that way, but that is just an interpretation of fuck all. Yeah it is fuck all, because wtf do you know about anything? You're not as important as you think, and yet I should be careful of what I write here, but there is no world for you to save and there is no one out "there" waiting for you to save them. When I had a mystical fractal weird ass mahasamadhi hankaradadakarlagimarakadilagiraki experience I fucking begged God to fucking take me, I wanted him to fuck me for ever, and he did but then it felt like I pulled myself back here on the "physical" plane, now he stopped fucking me but started fucking me over by making me think I had something to do with the fucking. Goddammit searched for that shit and was in my fucking head for a year or two looking for absolutely nothing. 

    Edit: jeez, just read this over again, take this with a grain of salt. 

  25. Posted · Edited by traveler

    It is bizarre and it is the last thing the seeker wants. It wants a conclusion, a breakthrough into something feasible that it can know. That breakthrough is a dream, it is falls hope, suffering. Infinite free fall, you grab onto things, but you slowly begin to understand that nothing can be held on to. Gradually the safe solid/known reality dissolves in front of you, it will feel like you are going absolutely crazy, spiritual teachers will lose all of their authority, everyone will lose all of their authority, you will be TOTALLY alone I mean T.O.T.A.L.L.Y alone because it is absolutely hopeless and unreal, you will instinctively know that everyone you gave authority are as clueless as you are to what this is, nothing will help you, NOTHING, because it is all a dream, a prison, you're holding on to the bars with dear life. Not real, and real. If you get a glimpse of the void, you're practically already dead. You can't unsee it. 

    All that is of course total bullshit, a story. Welcome to the world of no-thing! Here there is only unknowing and nothing is real, bye bye safe world, hello no-thing world full of existential action like the terrifyingly exciting fan favourite: Fear of non existence!! Or try out one of our new Rollercoasters called: "You're all alone" and "your whole life is a lie!" That sure is a kicking ride yoo! 

    I'm on day 2 of nicotine withdrawal so if this sounds depressing, tell yourself that it's because someone over here is depriving themselves of quick fixes of dopamine every 2 minutes, trust me life is miserable without it, but also with it, and my lungs need recovering so I have to do this.