The character never awakens. Consciousness does.

[ivankiss]

Here's an even more mind - blowing realization, if properly soaked in..:

Not only that the character never awakens and consciousness does... but even more precisely; consciousness is always and already, forever and ever, infinitely conscious (of itself). The degree to which the character is willing to let go and surrender (to light, to consciousness, to here and now) to that exact degree light shines through. There seems to be 'more consciousness', 'more light'. Which is, obviously just a trick.

There absolutely cannot, never ever ever, be more or less consciousness. That's fantasy.

Consciousness is always and forever whole, flawless, omnipresent, omnipotent, undisturbed, untouchable, unfuckable. Right now, right here.

'The character' is just a portion of consciousness that does not remember it is consciousness. And that is not an accident, of course. It is 'by design'.

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

3 hours ago, Thought Art said:

But, this “I” I’m pouting to is absolute

"I" is a concept. The Absolute is not.

[ivankiss]

Note to self:

 

If you feel good... you want to be present.

If you feel bad...you want to hide, disconnect, shut down.

To feel bad simply means... "further away from presence"

To feel good simply means... "getting closer to presence"

 

It is possible to feel very, very bad... and still be very, very present. Yes. 

It is also possible to feel very good, and not be all that present. Yes.

 

One is a super-state that transcends duality. The other is falsehood.

 

Here is the true importance of feeling:

It's not that there actually are two or more separate good or bad feelings.

It is all just one feeling. Telling you only one thing: how close or far away, how "aligned or misaligned" you are with "the present moment".

 

Thought's are projected onto feelings. Feelings make thoughts seem real. 

"I" is a thought.

but

"I" is also a feeling.

The literal sense of self, the feeling of "I" is located in the abdominal area of your body.

If that feeling goes away... you lose your sense of self. You cannot tell where you begin, where you end, where you are, what you are, what anything is... nothing. It completely fucks up the entire system. It fucks up... "you".

Beliefs... are thoughts backed up with A LOT of feeling. That's what "the brickwall" that you cannot seem to be able to move past is.

 

Remember...

 

Thought.

Feeling.

Perception.

 

That's all there is and can ever be in "direct experience". That's quite literally "the mechanics of the self".

"The character".

To either transcend or annihilate this "mechanism" called "direct experience"... is to awaken.

 

Edited December 7, 2023 by ivankiss

[Thought Art]

@Bazooka Jesus Aha, so you imagine. When you awaken, you will realize that all that exists is you. Regardless of the content.

You are all that exists and will exist. You have always existed. I, EXIST. I Exist regardless of what shape I take. That is what it means to be God.

Edited December 7, 2023 by Thought Art

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Bazooka Jesus Aha, so you imagine. When you awaken, you will realize that all that exists is you. Regardless of the content.

You are all that exists and will exist. You have always existed. I, EXIST. I Exist regardless of what shape I take. That is what it means to be God.

A ha. Difficult to embody when desires are at play. Love what you said.

[Thought Art]

@Princess Arabia Sort of not really. Look at your hands, whatever you are doing even the mundane, even that desires. That is absolutely what is true right now.

Consciousness, is I. Is you. Is me. Is now. Is all that exists.

 

"When I leave the room.. It's gone"...

 

Edited December 7, 2023 by Thought Art

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Thought Art said:

@Princess Arabia Sort of not really. Look at your hands, whatever you are doing even the mundane, even that desires. That is absolutely what is true right now.

Watch the video I posted in the powerful section.

[Thought Art]

@Princess Arabia The what section?

[Princess Arabia]

 

Just now, Thought Art said:

@Princess Arabia The what section?

 

[Thought Art]

@Princess Arabia I am not a victim haha

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Princess Arabia I am not a victim haha

Never mind...peace out. Keep watching what you resonate with. Love you. 

[Thought Art]

@Princess Arabia Hi Princess, thank you for sharing. I appreciate it. I will check it out later 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

When you awaken, you will realize that all that exists is you

As the op says, it is not you who awakens, but you move away and the unlimited reality manifests. You are that, but that is not a you. When the infinite is, there is no place to see that others do not exist or exist, those are ideas of the self. infinity is unthinkable. either there is the self that articulates thoughts, or there is the infinite.

[ivankiss]

On the topic of free will vs. determinism... conditioning vs. freedom, choice or no choice...

I will share a piece of conversation between Devin and Steve, that I already shared in another thread yesterday... but I think it fits in here real nice as well. Sort of like a cherry on the top of the cake.

It is an important "puzze - piece".

 

S: "Nobody can act outside of their conditioning at any given time of their life..."

D: "Ok, but how is there a choice then? If you can't act outside of your conditioning, how can you make a choice to act in a different way?"

S: "No matter where you're at, and no matter where you've evolved to... You're there. The actions that you take and the thoughts that you think are reflective of where you are at any given time. You are not able to make the choice to change the way you act and think until you realize that you have that choice."

D: "So the realization is a separate mechanism?"

S: "The realization is the recognition that you're already doing it now... You are creating your reality, at any given moment."

[Thought Art]

@Breakingthewall I find that dualistic though. I am that infinite consciousness. It doesn’t feel other. I realize that thought Art is a finite aspect of my larger self. 
 

The Self is Infinity. It’s not some dualistic other thing you realize. 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Thought Art

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

8 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@Bazooka Jesus Aha, so you imagine. When you awaken, you will realize that all that exists is you. Regardless of the content.

You are all that exists and will exist. You have always existed. I, EXIST. I Exist regardless of what shape I take. That is what it means to be God.

That's a mental story. To truly awaken means to realize that which is behind all stories.

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@Breakingthewall I find that dualistic though. I am that infinite consciousness. It doesn’t feel other. I realize that thought Art is a finite aspect of my larger self. 
 

The Self is Infinity. It’s not some dualistic other thing you realize. 

9 hours ago, Thought Art said:

 

Yes, in some way there is that duality, you could say that it is not such because thought art is a false character.

We humans live sandwiched between other humans. All our self-perception is a rebound from others, without others we are nothing. It is crazy and in many cases hell, as if we were a hive entity in the process of formation but that has not yet been fully formed.

When you manage to break that shell, that identity created by the energy of human interaction, true life manifests. It is another dimension entirely, since the mental life created by human interaction is on another level. All humans live in this madness, and we are trying to get out of it, which is not easy at all.

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@ivankiss I disagree a bit. Consciousness Is. And as such, it is all it is. Nevertheless, it is not homogeneous. It has different levels and states that manifest differently. Bringing back the knowledge about this, anyone, and I emphasize everyone, if they really want to, can change the frequency ranges on which they operate. This usually happens as a result of fatigue from operating in low-energy patterns. Low energy functioning or even its complete lack does not always mean low self-awareness. There are areas of relatively high awareness that suck energy because they no longer generate it themselves. The so-called Anti-Life. The categories of reality in the Cosmic Dream are always relative. Nevertheless, the scale is vast. Perceiving this journey along the path of Self-Discovery in 0-1 categories, black and white with no intermediate states or shades, is a dangerous simplification. It is also inconsistent with ordinary observation of reality. Even Advaita Vedanta is very nuanced. Just read the Upanishads on which it is based. A shortcut to state 1 exists, but it requires enormous effort and consistency. Regardless of the method. Appreciate the complexity of the maze of which you are a co-creator

[Javfly33]

3 hours ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

@ivankiss I disagree a bit. Consciousness Is. And as such, it is all it is. Nevertheless, it is not homogeneous. It has different levels and states that manifest differently. Bringing back the knowledge about this, anyone, and I emphasize everyone, if they really want to, can change the frequency ranges on which they operate. This usually happens as a result of fatigue from operating in low-energy patterns. Low energy functioning or even its complete lack does not always mean low self-awareness. There are areas of relatively high awareness that suck energy because they no longer generate it themselves. The so-called Anti-Life. The categories of reality in the Cosmic Dream are always relative. Nevertheless, the scale is vast. Perceiving this journey along the path of Self-Discovery in 0-1 categories, black and white with no intermediate states or shades, is a dangerous simplification. It is also inconsistent with ordinary observation of reality. Even Advaita Vedanta is very nuanced. Just read the Upanishads on which it is based. A shortcut to state 1 exists, but it requires enormous effort and consistency. Regardless of the method. Appreciate the complexity of the maze of which you are a co-creator

 

👏👏

[Thought Art]

I am that ad infinitum 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Thought Art