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UFOs Are Here

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31 minutes ago, oOo said:

@Jehovah increases I agree.

Right now I am doing a deep investigation into Space Jam.

I can't believe they caught all of this on video.

I feel like maybe they even cause basketball injuries to great sports people, or reduce their physical ceiling during development. 

If Zion Williamson was only a few inches taller, he'd be Shaq 2.0. 

I'm just trying to point out the obvious here.

There are no limits to human credulity.

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I tend to only be interested in what constitutes sufficient evidence for someone to believe a claim, because many times "sufficient proof" of NHI or UAP for sceptics is almost impossible outside of direct experience (which is reasonable given governments have demonstrably engaged in secrecy and disinformation) which I'll note isn't the only reasonable evidentiary standard. The disinformation, misinformation, cover ups & deliberate twisting of so much information really renders discussion moot in some ways. 

Which also why debate isn't worth it. Plus - to charitably debate there needs to be a genuine interest, which usually also means a lot of background research and preparation. "It doesn't make sense" isn't enough in a serious debate.

I suppose it's the difference between healthy scepticism and unfalsifiable scepticism.


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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1 hour ago, LoneWonderer said:

@Natasha Tori Maru I enjoyed the audio interview of the Aerial school student. He came off authentic and surprisingly grounded down to earth individual. 

In contrast to some of Jesse Michaels guests who're almost jumping out of their seats "Hey Jesse you won't believe buddy what I'm about to tell you bud, I was anal probed by an Alien last year you know?!"

Yes, the gentleman interviewed isn't flash or in for clicks. Just an experiencer with a tale. I am glad you enjoyed 💫


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Guys, in this reality literally anything is possible. We have planes flying in the sky which would've seemed like magic and impossible just a few hundred years ago.

Bruno and others where burned at the stake for their ideas at their time and now all their ideas it's all just part of common sense worldview of how the world works.

We have the telepathy tapes series come out last year. More insane, crazy things I could keep going and going...

Look could it all just be conspiracy and self delusional at individual and societal scale? Yes of course. Maybe one day soon this will be revealed to have been the case. But maybe not...

What I mean is untill fully, categorically the subject has been debunked, let's not make definitive statements like "aliens don't exist" or "aliens definetly exist". That's pretty low consciousness child like behavior. If you think yourself a smartass but haven't done any research into the subject please refrain from commenting on a subject you have no knowledge or experience of.

Keep this space open for questions, sharing tid bit knowledge, cool finds and interesting passionate conversation. That's all this thread is for. Couple of people who enjoy a fringe topic that may or may not ultimately have any value.

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2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Yes, the gentleman interviewed isn't flash or in for clicks. Just an experiencer with a tale. I am glad you enjoyed 💫

You say you where involved in that talk taking place? I noticed the interviewee had an ozzie accent...


 

 

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@LoneWonderer haha your cookin' xD PREACH 

 

 

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Just now, LoneWonderer said:

You say you where involved in that talk taking place? I noticed the interviewee had an ozzie accent...

I had some influence! The journalist normally does true crime so this was a deviation in his content. 


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I'm sorta sad about this topic. There was so much interest being generated. It's just been floating in the background while humans do their human drama. Killing each other. Stealing. Raping. Shitting on the environment. 

Sigh.


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(Thumbnail is fake clickbait)

Varginha case seems the most genuine ones that I've seen so far. 

But I didn't know these:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/mar/21/anniversary-et-of-legend-varginha-alien-incident-musuem-documentary

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Original investigator changes position: Ufologist Ubirajara Rodrigues, who initially publicized the encounter, now describes the story as a collection of falsehoods and unsupported assumptions.

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New documentary exposes inconsistencies: The Mystery of Varginha investigates fabricated testimony, alleged payments to witnesses, and sensationalist television coverage.

But still, despite these, story seems believable to me. 

Yeah, if we accuse doctor (or any other witness) in lies because of bribes, the same logic can apply to Ufologist Ubirajara Rodrigue, who now tries to debunk the story. Not so easy to conclude anything. 

 

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@Jehovah increases MJ even goes into this in the documentary; but its all captured.

Doubters are just haters now. So you must show compassion. As hate just breeds blindness feeding further ignorance. 

What's been done to Zion is unmistakable. 

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Lets stop pretending like there is no evidence for alien sightings and encounters:

"The Ariel School UFO incident took place on the morning of September 16, 1994, at Ariel School, a private primary school in Ruwa, Zimbabwe (located about 22 kilometers southeast of Harare). 

What Happened

The Sighting: During morning recess while teachers were in a staff meeting, more than 60 school children (aged 6 to 12) reported seeing a bright silver, disc- or saucer-shaped object descend and land in the bush area near the edge of their playground. 

The Beings: Children described seeing one or two small, non-human figures (about 3 to 4 feet tall) wearing tight black or shiny bodysuits, with long dark hair and large, prominent dark eyes. 

Telepathic Message: Many of the students reported receiving a direct telepathic or silent warning message from the beings concerning humanity's destructive path, environmental degradation, and the dangers of unchecked technology. 

Investigations and Aftermath

Cynthia Hind: Well-known local UFO researcher Cynthia Hind interviewed the children independently shortly after the event and had them draw pictures. Despite diverse cultural backgrounds, the children's individual sketches and descriptions of the craft and the beings were remarkably consistent. 

Dr. John Mack: Harvard psychiatrist Dr. John E. Mack traveled to Zimbabwe to interview the children on camera. He concluded that the children were not fabricating the story, hallucinating, or succumbing to mass hysteria, but instead appeared to have experienced a genuine, deeply transformative event.

Enduring Legacy: Decades later, the witnesses—now adults—have largely maintained their accounts of what they saw that day. The event remains one of the most famous and heavily studied mass UFO encounters in history."

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1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Lets stop pretending like there is no evidence for alien sightings and encounters:

"The Ariel School UFO incident took place on the morning of September 16, 1994, at Ariel School, a private primary school in Ruwa, Zimbabwe (located about 22 kilometers southeast of Harare). 

What Happened

The Sighting: During morning recess while teachers were in a staff meeting, more than 60 school children (aged 6 to 12) reported seeing a bright silver, disc- or saucer-shaped object descend and land in the bush area near the edge of their playground. 

The Beings: Children described seeing one or two small, non-human figures (about 3 to 4 feet tall) wearing tight black or shiny bodysuits, with long dark hair and large, prominent dark eyes. 

Telepathic Message: Many of the students reported receiving a direct telepathic or silent warning message from the beings concerning humanity's destructive path, environmental degradation, and the dangers of unchecked technology. 

Investigations and Aftermath

Cynthia Hind: Well-known local UFO researcher Cynthia Hind interviewed the children independently shortly after the event and had them draw pictures. Despite diverse cultural backgrounds, the children's individual sketches and descriptions of the craft and the beings were remarkably consistent. 

Dr. John Mack: Harvard psychiatrist Dr. John E. Mack traveled to Zimbabwe to interview the children on camera. He concluded that the children were not fabricating the story, hallucinating, or succumbing to mass hysteria, but instead appeared to have experienced a genuine, deeply transformative event.

Enduring Legacy: Decades later, the witnesses—now adults—have largely maintained their accounts of what they saw that day. The event remains one of the most famous and heavily studied mass UFO encounters in history."

 

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@Jehovah increases

Cheers, Im busy watching now, i like what the one witness said: "I didnt believe it because it couldn't be possible."🙂

The interesting thing about the Zimbabwe case is that the aliens were actually witnessed themselves. 

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