UFOs Are Here

[Natasha Tori Maru]

9 hours ago, Sandroew said:

Even your voice sounds Aussie. Or maybe its the intonation i dont know, but im satisfied.

I do not have a high pitched girl voice, much to my displeasure. It does not have that sing/song ring to it. Much lower pitched. I used to speak with a lot of vocal fry but trained that out of myself when I had to chair meetings at work with large audiences. Listening to recordings of myself was like a pin to the eyeballs!

But the Aussie accent? Unmistakable >.<

[cistanche_enjoyer]

Disclosure coming soon 

[Rafael Thundercat]

anyone heard of this UFo in Turkey? 

 

[LoneWonderer]

I know this is totally speculative but who do you guys think are potential active disinformation agents in this space? Also who could be be pushing a disinformation agenda unknowingly due to effective infiltration?

My guesses just from gut feelings would be as follows:

Active Disinformation agents:

- Lue Elizando and most people who appeared in age of disclosure documentary.

- The channel Watch Mojo and their coverage of the topic (they provide guests from the whole UFO spectrum but still aomething tells me they're trying to muddy the waters with some very extreme guests who have very weird wacky UFO ideas).

- Jeremy Corbell (something feels off about him but I may be wrong here).

- Steven Spielberg (Some weird connections with him, CIA and UFO's)

- AARRO, NASA and Trump

 

Unaware spreaders of misinformation (due to effective disinformation campaign):

- Area 52 channel (My observations have been his psychology is in the pre-rational stage of development and therefore an easy individual to manipulate).

- Jesse Michaels (Has given platform to some pretty wacky crackpotty individuals who he doesn't seem to push back on).

- Joe Rogan 

- Director of age of disclosure.

 

People I've felt the most trust in over time:

- Ross Coulthart

- The guy who directed the Varginha Brazil Case documentary (James Fox)

- David Grush and Jake Barber

- Bob Lazar (Funny enough)

- Dr steven Greer (I'm not sure what to make of him, I'm careful with him as his community has some cultish aspects to it I've noticed)

*Note these are just gut feelings and also I'm well aware many of these people are constantly intermingling with each other and the whole UAP space is a mess.

Edited March 20 by LoneWonderer

[Innerview]

7 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

I know this is totally speculative but who do you guys think are potential active disinformation agents in this space? Also who could be be pushing a disinformation agenda unknowingly due to effective infiltration?

My guesses just from gut feelings would be as follows:

Active Disinformation agents:

- Lue Elizando and most people who appeared in age of disclosure documentary.

- The channel Watch Mojo and their coverage of the topic (they provide guests from the whole UFO spectrum but still aomething tells me they're trying to muddy the waters with some very extreme guests who have very weird wacky UFO ideas).

- Jeremy Corbell (something feels off about him but I may be wrong here).

- Steven Spielberg (Some weird connections with him, CIA and UFO's)

- AARRO, NASA and Trump

 

Unaware spreaders of misinformation (due to effective disinformation campaign):

- Area 52 channel (My observations have been his psychology is in the pre-rational stage of development and therefore an easy individual to manipulate).

- Jesse Michaels (Has given platform to some pretty wacky crackpotty individuals who he doesn't seem to push back on).

- Joe Rogan 

- Director of age of disclosure.

 

People I've felt the most trust in over time:

- Ross Coulthart

- David Grush and Jake Barber

- Bob Lazar (Funny enough)

- Dr steven Greer (I'm not sure what to make of him, I'm careful with him as his community has some cultish aspects to it I've noticed)

*Note these are just gut feelings and also I'm well aware many of these people are constantly intermingling with each other and the whole UAP space is a mess.

Lue Elizondo - I trust him because he did lose his career due to blowing the whistle, I just think he is scared to share the juicy information we all want.

Watch Mojo - Haven't heard of this one yet.

Jeremy Corbell - In it for the fame, always saying people are sending him videos, he is lost in the sauce, but means no harm. 

Steven Spielberg - Puppet for intelligence agencies, shame because he's a creative genius. 

AARO, NASA, Trump - Very standoffish about this topic. Trump said he will release the Alien files. He said the same thing about the Epstein files. 

 

Area 52 Channel - Heard of them but never watched their content. 

Jesse Michels - Applaud him for making this his life work, but drinks too much of the Kool Aid. He is associated with Peter Thiel? No good. 

Joe Rogan - Dumb, people that listen to him tend to vote for Trump (who is standoffish on this topic). 

Director of age of disclosure - Don't know anything about the director, but the movie was cookie cutter to the max. Standoffish. 

 

Ross Coulthart - He has said UAP tech should be private property. Tells you everything you need to know about him. 

David Grusch - 10/10

Jake Barber - Promoting his for-profit UAP retrieval business, right goal, wrong way of going about it. So, on the fence here. I believe his recounting of his paranormal experience. 

Bob Lazar - He lied about his credentials. Only case of element 115 powering UAPs. But he has stood firm in his assertions. I believe him.

Steven Greer - Same as Barber, but probably worse. For-profit UAP summoning business. But he is well informed on the topic. 

 

What's worse, the powers-that-be useing these individuals as puppets? Or the individuals trying to profit from their knowledge?

[LoneWonderer]

13 minutes ago, Innerview said:

Lue Elizondo - I trust him because he did lose his career due to blowing the whistle, I just think he is scared to share the juicy information we all want.

Watch Mojo - Haven't heard of this one yet.

Jeremy Corbell - In it for the fame, always saying people are sending him videos, he is lost in the sauce, but means no harm. 

Steven Spielberg - Puppet for intelligence agencies, shame because he's a creative genius. 

AARO, NASA, Trump - Very standoffish about this topic. Trump said he will release the Alien files. He said the same thing about the Epstein files. 

 

Area 52 Channel - Heard of them but never watched their content. 

Jesse Michels - Applaud him for making this his life work, but drinks too much of the Kool Aid. He is associated with Peter Thiel? No good. 

Joe Rogan - Dumb, people that listen to him tend to vote for Trump (who is standoffish on this topic). 

Director of age of disclosure - Don't know anything about the director, but the movie was cookie cutter to the max. Standoffish. 

 

Ross Coulthart - He has said UAP tech should be private property. Tells you everything you need to know about him. 

David Grusch - 10/10

Jake Barber - Promoting his for-profit UAP retrieval business, right goal, wrong way of going about it. So, on the fence here. I believe his recounting of his paranormal experience. 

Bob Lazar - He lied about his credentials. Only case of element 115 powering UAPs. But he has stood firm in his assertions. I believe him.

Steven Greer - Same as Barber, but probably worse. For-profit UAP summoning business. But he is well informed on the topic. 

 

What's worse, the powers-that-be useing these individuals as puppets? Or the individuals trying to profit from their knowledge?

Thanks for your analysis. Anyone else I haven't mentioned that's on your radar?

I see Lou as part of the Intelligence Establishment. He can easily create a story to create public trust (I lost my job, my house, had to live in a campervan with my family) which could all be true and be played out for normies to verify (like him literally moving into a campervan with his family) while still actively being paid and supported behind the scenes by intelligence agencies. His previous job literally was as an intelligence agent of sorts.

Edited March 20 by LoneWonderer

[Innerview]

45 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

Thanks for your analysis. Anyone else I haven't mentioned that's on your radar?

I see Lou as part of the Intelligence Establishment. He can easily create a story to create public trust (I lost my job, my house, had to live in a campervan with my family) which could all be true and be played out for normies to verify (like him literally moving into a campervan with his family) while still actively being paid and supported behind the scenes by intelligence agencies. His previous job literally was as an intelligence agent of sorts.

Yeah, re Lou, and the people in this list for that matter, UAP is a spiritual phenomena and I believe at some level they are all compromised. I like Gigi Young when she talks about NHI as spiritual phenoms, but she can come off as woo-woo. At the end of the day, I prefer first hand experience, so I recommend the Otherworld podcast, focusing on episodes 157 and 82-87. These, in my opinion, give you the most information about what this phenomena truly is.  

[LoneWonderer]

6 hours ago, Innerview said:

Yeah, re Lou, and the people in this list for that matter, UAP is a spiritual phenomena and I believe at some level they are all compromised. I like Gigi Young when she talks about NHI as spiritual phenoms, but she can come off as woo-woo. At the end of the day, I prefer first hand experience, so I recommend the Otherworld podcast, focusing on episodes 157 and 82-87. These, in my opinion, give you the most information about what this phenomena truly is.  

Hey thanks for the recommend, will check out those episodes. 👍

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

Dr steven Greer

He seems most suss of them all.

The outlandish stuff he says with such confidence.

Edited March 21 by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@LoneWonderer I am really in alignment with your assessments - ha! 

The ones I am super sketch about art Luis Elizondo, NASA & Jesse Michels. Jesse Michels I used to enjoy, but after digging a bit and hearing his more recent shit he was backed by Peter Thiel from the start. If you look at the history of his channel the explosive growth doesn't make sense without outside assistance.

Luis is a disinformation agent.

NASA is a government agency. Don't forget it. They fucken know what's up. 

Dr Steven Greer - this one gets me. He is so confident and articulate. My warning bells go off I could be fooled. But then he has said somethings that.... Align with my personal experiences of contact. I don't know.

As a total aside - does anyone fuck with the old Art Bell Coast to Coast AM? I love that shit.

This whole topic is full of insanity, I sorta can't help but love it!! 👾👾👾

 

Edited March 21 by Natasha Tori Maru

[LoneWonderer]

17 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@LoneWonderer I am really in alignment with your assessments - ha! 

The ones I am super sketch about art Luis Elizondo, NASA & Jesse Michels. Jesse Michels I used to enjoy, but after digging a bit and hearing his more recent shit he was backed by Peter Thiel from the start. If you look at the history of his channel the explosive growth doesn't make sense without outside assistance.

Luis is a disinformation agent.

NASA is a government agency. Don't forget it. They fucken know what's up. 

Dr Steven Greer - this one gets me. He is so confident and articulate. My warning bells go off I could be fooled. But then he has said somethings that.... Align with my personal experiences of contact. I don't know.

As a total aside - does anyone fuck with the old Art Bell Coast to Coast AM? I love that shit.

This whole topic is full of insanity, I sorta can't help but love it!! 👾👾👾

 

@Natasha Tori Maru Dr Steven Greer has said some things about how the beings are only about and operate on love (at least the ones he interacts with). This gave me some hope in what he says. He himself however does not come off to me as a very loving, truthful, honest actor. A case of the seperating the message from the messenger I guess.

Never heard of coast to coast am. Any episodes you highly recommend?

Edited March 21 by LoneWonderer

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@LoneWonderer

Not limited to just the UFO/Alien phenomena? Paranormal etc. These are some of my favourites, but there are more:

The Area 51 Caller (famous terrified caller frantic before the feed was cut)

Mel's Hole (bottomless pit the government was after)

The Father Malachi Martin interviews (fucked up Vatican stories - frightening secrets)

Ghost to ghost AM (annual paranormal stories)

Mad Man Marcum / Time machine man (guy with insane time machine he claimed to have built) 

Officer X interview (nuclear sub officer)

Pamela Stonebrooke (reptilian encounters) 

The Mercenary Gabriel (jailbreaker) 

Major Ed Dames (remote viewing) 

John Lear (Area 51 & UFOs) 

Mind you - the above are a huge mixed bag. Paranormal, non-local awareness, ghosts, UFOs, aliens etc. Many are thought to be urban legends, but Art Bell has a great narrative voice and some stories are enthralling. 

Good rainy day listening  

Edited March 21 by Natasha Tori Maru

[LoneWonderer]

Thank you 

[bazera]

This has some nice VFX.

 

[tvaeli]

I think we have measureable qualities of very different things.

We have "unidentified" and "flying" "objects" - in this objectual realm, we cannot claim much contact; this whole classification is rather based on security and not advancing field of contact, exchange of science and culture; technology, possibly, is exchanged by this classification: rather, this is a close contact with extraterrestial life. While unidentified flying objects, if they exist, could prove extraterrestial life, most of the meaningful contact and cooperation is rather different.

We have distinct kinds of reports; I classify them in alchemical categories:

- Mental. This is the realm by which, we calculate probabilities of life, their survival criteria including by which terms they can be advanced civilization and reach, basically, us. Here, definitions of species, their incomes and outcomes and shares or conflicts with us can be measured based on criteria, including the probability to have anything to do. On mental level, any other creature has definitely "noticed us": we might include their hypothesis on which life might exist, and how to treat it, and we can logically build on this mental field, to be ready and prepared, and to estimate any intelligent race is ready and prepared, but on their own terms, as they meet us - by this time, we can develop intelligent response based on intelligent quest inside our mind, and it's infinite potential to create imaginations, mythic realities, and estimation calculations; as well as answering questions like "what is necessary even to be alive, and then to come as an alien? what is necessary to survive?". Theoretical category, as open minded and profound it can be, will be inclusive to things we haven't seen, and we can reach far in probabilities to include each outcome.

- Spiritual. We dig deep into our own being: we look at sky, from colors we mentally take the light interference patterns into the chemisty, so with plain eye we see chemistry in sky, associating with elements we know. We can see the color of third eye at pleyades and especially andromeda, or "war color" of red at Mars; or the shining brilliance of Sirius - all this is associated with categories we know. Spiritual people, at least, resonate with the multidimensional realities, which associate with themselves, and draw from civilizations they would build there, if they was of the same element: while it's hard to follow the whole universal reincarnation, as well we are criticized by beings who naturally reincarnate on the same planet and call this "reincarnation" - some beings are very much adopted to their native environment, and cannot cope well with big changes. We can see elements play in human soul, and recognize: how elements of people are associated with elements of certain planets, galaxies etc., and how they basically still play the "would-be": the actual quality of being born there, is hard to measure, but we can see how we are part of universal play of elements, and might not represent here the element which actually is dominant here, and identifies Earth: in desert of Earthly sands, typical sands, you can suddenly find rocks of Mercury; while not being, perhaps, from this planet: they resonate with rocks of mercury, the hologram vibration of each energy they got to vibrate at all; both light and radioactivity are tuned most often between the same element.
- Material. In this sense, alien contact involves physical visits. In this sense, we must physically see the alien, or read radio signals and identify their sources. While this is the strictest criteria, this is hard to meet: since we ourselves are not capable for travelling space based on our understanding of who to meet, we can do this kind of contact only with alien, which is able and willing to reach here.

 

We all live in our personal realities, and on openness of fields: for each of us, our travel in quantum multidimension, rather than 3D realm which is only the effect of "mirage" of this depth of dimension, creates us a definite reality of open possibilities all around us. This is not speculative philosophy of abstract realms and metadimensions such as logic and math; this is rather a real, material philosophy of this: space around us leaves it's possibilities open, and we are having alchemy with it for long time before it reacts.

These two realms: the world we see from inside, where the spirit travels matter by it's meaningful combinations, and the world outside, a material quantity associated with effects of this spirit, our conscious field; it's very synchronous one: while for spirit, it unfolds like a "dream", a world which seems to be able to create different realities freely to different beings, but in matter, it's a physical realm which follows sure material patterns - how this material realm, which is not a dream but an automata or a machine, provides to the spirit inside, is the fact that indeed, the spirit has been evolved with this matter to constitute it's meaningful view: inside, the spirit dreams, and based on their own consequences, different realities appear to them. This dreaming spirit can be sure in elements in fractal, and how each element gives life somewhere: naturally, the "fire people", "water" or "ice" people etc.; we can see them building life from their local elements, and melting into their nature and natural world while carrying the deeper meaning of life - how it responds here, locally, to grand consequences matter is blind of.

These three categories are rather meaningful for development of our culture: naturally, we look for aliens which are not in conflict with others or which is handling their conflicts; while KGB and CIA might screen their criminals and warn us, we can find native cityzens who are not actually entities for them, it seems: I have seen aliens enjoy human life.

[CARDOZZO]

 

[CARDOZZO]

 

[Xerces]

On 21/03/2026 at 2:24 AM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The Area 51 Caller (famous terrified caller frantic before the feed was cut)

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

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