UFOs Are Here

[Natasha Tori Maru]

9 hours ago, Sandroew said:

Even your voice sounds Aussie. Or maybe its the intonation i dont know, but im satisfied.

I do not have a high pitched girl voice, much to my displeasure. It does not have that sing/song ring to it. Much lower pitched. I used to speak with a lot of vocal fry but trained that out of myself when I had to chair meetings at work with large audiences. Listening to recordings of myself was like a pin to the eyeballs!

But the Aussie accent? Unmistakable >.<

[cistanche_enjoyer]

Disclosure coming soon 

[Rafael Thundercat]

anyone heard of this UFo in Turkey? 

 

[LoneWonderer]

I know this is totally speculative but who do you guys think are potential active disinformation agents in this space? Also who could be be pushing a disinformation agenda unknowingly due to effective infiltration?

My guesses just from gut feelings would be as follows:

Active Disinformation agents:

- Lue Elizando and most people who appeared in age of disclosure documentary.

- The channel Watch Mojo and their coverage of the topic (they provide guests from the whole UFO spectrum but still aomething tells me they're trying to muddy the waters with some very extreme guests who have very weird wacky UFO ideas).

- Jeremy Corbell (something feels off about him but I may be wrong here).

- Steven Spielberg (Some weird connections with him, CIA and UFO's)

- AARRO, NASA and Trump

 

Unaware spreaders of misinformation (due to effective disinformation campaign):

- Area 52 channel (My observations have been his psychology is in the pre-rational stage of development and therefore an easy individual to manipulate).

- Jesse Michaels (Has given platform to some pretty wacky crackpotty individuals who he doesn't seem to push back on).

- Joe Rogan 

- Director of age of disclosure.

 

People I've felt the most trust in over time:

- Ross Coulthart

- The guy who directed the Varginha Brazil Case documentary (James Fox)

- David Grush and Jake Barber

- Bob Lazar (Funny enough)

- Dr steven Greer (I'm not sure what to make of him, I'm careful with him as his community has some cultish aspects to it I've noticed)

*Note these are just gut feelings and also I'm well aware many of these people are constantly intermingling with each other and the whole UAP space is a mess.

Edited 14 hours ago by LoneWonderer

[Innerview]

7 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

I know this is totally speculative but who do you guys think are potential active disinformation agents in this space? Also who could be be pushing a disinformation agenda unknowingly due to effective infiltration?

My guesses just from gut feelings would be as follows:

Active Disinformation agents:

- Lue Elizando and most people who appeared in age of disclosure documentary.

- The channel Watch Mojo and their coverage of the topic (they provide guests from the whole UFO spectrum but still aomething tells me they're trying to muddy the waters with some very extreme guests who have very weird wacky UFO ideas).

- Jeremy Corbell (something feels off about him but I may be wrong here).

- Steven Spielberg (Some weird connections with him, CIA and UFO's)

- AARRO, NASA and Trump

 

Unaware spreaders of misinformation (due to effective disinformation campaign):

- Area 52 channel (My observations have been his psychology is in the pre-rational stage of development and therefore an easy individual to manipulate).

- Jesse Michaels (Has given platform to some pretty wacky crackpotty individuals who he doesn't seem to push back on).

- Joe Rogan 

- Director of age of disclosure.

 

People I've felt the most trust in over time:

- Ross Coulthart

- David Grush and Jake Barber

- Bob Lazar (Funny enough)

- Dr steven Greer (I'm not sure what to make of him, I'm careful with him as his community has some cultish aspects to it I've noticed)

*Note these are just gut feelings and also I'm well aware many of these people are constantly intermingling with each other and the whole UAP space is a mess.

Lue Elizondo - I trust him because he did lose his career due to blowing the whistle, I just think he is scared to share the juicy information we all want.

Watch Mojo - Haven't heard of this one yet.

Jeremy Corbell - In it for the fame, always saying people are sending him videos, he is lost in the sauce, but means no harm. 

Steven Spielberg - Puppet for intelligence agencies, shame because he's a creative genius. 

AARO, NASA, Trump - Very standoffish about this topic. Trump said he will release the Alien files. He said the same thing about the Epstein files. 

 

Area 52 Channel - Heard of them but never watched their content. 

Jesse Michels - Applaud him for making this his life work, but drinks too much of the Kool Aid. He is associated with Peter Thiel? No good. 

Joe Rogan - Dumb, people that listen to him tend to vote for Trump (who is standoffish on this topic). 

Director of age of disclosure - Don't know anything about the director, but the movie was cookie cutter to the max. Standoffish. 

 

Ross Coulthart - He has said UAP tech should be private property. Tells you everything you need to know about him. 

David Grusch - 10/10

Jake Barber - Promoting his for-profit UAP retrieval business, right goal, wrong way of going about it. So, on the fence here. I believe his recounting of his paranormal experience. 

Bob Lazar - He lied about his credentials. Only case of element 115 powering UAPs. But he has stood firm in his assertions. I believe him.

Steven Greer - Same as Barber, but probably worse. For-profit UAP summoning business. But he is well informed on the topic. 

 

What's worse, the powers-that-be useing these individuals as puppets? Or the individuals trying to profit from their knowledge?

[LoneWonderer]

13 minutes ago, Innerview said:

Lue Elizondo - I trust him because he did lose his career due to blowing the whistle, I just think he is scared to share the juicy information we all want.

Watch Mojo - Haven't heard of this one yet.

Jeremy Corbell - In it for the fame, always saying people are sending him videos, he is lost in the sauce, but means no harm. 

Steven Spielberg - Puppet for intelligence agencies, shame because he's a creative genius. 

AARO, NASA, Trump - Very standoffish about this topic. Trump said he will release the Alien files. He said the same thing about the Epstein files. 

 

Area 52 Channel - Heard of them but never watched their content. 

Jesse Michels - Applaud him for making this his life work, but drinks too much of the Kool Aid. He is associated with Peter Thiel? No good. 

Joe Rogan - Dumb, people that listen to him tend to vote for Trump (who is standoffish on this topic). 

Director of age of disclosure - Don't know anything about the director, but the movie was cookie cutter to the max. Standoffish. 

 

Ross Coulthart - He has said UAP tech should be private property. Tells you everything you need to know about him. 

David Grusch - 10/10

Jake Barber - Promoting his for-profit UAP retrieval business, right goal, wrong way of going about it. So, on the fence here. I believe his recounting of his paranormal experience. 

Bob Lazar - He lied about his credentials. Only case of element 115 powering UAPs. But he has stood firm in his assertions. I believe him.

Steven Greer - Same as Barber, but probably worse. For-profit UAP summoning business. But he is well informed on the topic. 

 

What's worse, the powers-that-be useing these individuals as puppets? Or the individuals trying to profit from their knowledge?

Thanks for your analysis. Anyone else I haven't mentioned that's on your radar?

I see Lou as part of the Intelligence Establishment. He can easily create a story to create public trust (I lost my job, my house, had to live in a campervan with my family) which could all be true and be played out for normies to verify (like him literally moving into a campervan with his family) while still actively being paid and supported behind the scenes by intelligence agencies. His previous job literally was as an intelligence agent of sorts.

Edited 13 hours ago by LoneWonderer

[Innerview]

45 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

Thanks for your analysis. Anyone else I haven't mentioned that's on your radar?

I see Lou as part of the Intelligence Establishment. He can easily create a story to create public trust (I lost my job, my house, had to live in a campervan with my family) which could all be true and be played out for normies to verify (like him literally moving into a campervan with his family) while still actively being paid and supported behind the scenes by intelligence agencies. His previous job literally was as an intelligence agent of sorts.

Yeah, re Lou, and the people in this list for that matter, UAP is a spiritual phenomena and I believe at some level they are all compromised. I like Gigi Young when she talks about NHI as spiritual phenoms, but she can come off as woo-woo. At the end of the day, I prefer first hand experience, so I recommend the Otherworld podcast, focusing on episodes 157 and 82-87. These, in my opinion, give you the most information about what this phenomena truly is.  

[LoneWonderer]

6 hours ago, Innerview said:

Yeah, re Lou, and the people in this list for that matter, UAP is a spiritual phenomena and I believe at some level they are all compromised. I like Gigi Young when she talks about NHI as spiritual phenoms, but she can come off as woo-woo. At the end of the day, I prefer first hand experience, so I recommend the Otherworld podcast, focusing on episodes 157 and 82-87. These, in my opinion, give you the most information about what this phenomena truly is.  

Hey thanks for the recommend, will check out those episodes. 👍

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

Dr steven Greer

He seems most suss of them all.

The outlandish stuff he says with such confidence.

Edited 6 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@LoneWonderer I am really in alignment with your assessments - ha! 

The ones I am super sketch about art Luis Elizondo, NASA & Jesse Michels. Jesse Michels I used to enjoy, but after digging a bit and hearing his more recent shit he was backed by Peter Thiel from the start. If you look at the history of his channel the explosive growth doesn't make sense without outside assistance.

Luis is a disinformation agent.

NASA is a government agency. Don't forget it. They fucken know what's up. 

Dr Steven Greer - this one gets me. He is so confident and articulate. My warning bells go off I could be fooled. But then he has said somethings that.... Align with my personal experiences of contact. I don't know.

As a total aside - does anyone fuck with the old Art Bell Coast to Coast AM? I love that shit.

This whole topic is full of insanity, I sorta can't help but love it!! 👾👾👾

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[LoneWonderer]

17 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@LoneWonderer I am really in alignment with your assessments - ha! 

The ones I am super sketch about art Luis Elizondo, NASA & Jesse Michels. Jesse Michels I used to enjoy, but after digging a bit and hearing his more recent shit he was backed by Peter Thiel from the start. If you look at the history of his channel the explosive growth doesn't make sense without outside assistance.

Luis is a disinformation agent.

NASA is a government agency. Don't forget it. They fucken know what's up. 

Dr Steven Greer - this one gets me. He is so confident and articulate. My warning bells go off I could be fooled. But then he has said somethings that.... Align with my personal experiences of contact. I don't know.

As a total aside - does anyone fuck with the old Art Bell Coast to Coast AM? I love that shit.

This whole topic is full of insanity, I sorta can't help but love it!! 👾👾👾

 

@Natasha Tori Maru Dr Steven Greer has said some things about how the beings are only about and operate on love (at least the ones he interacts with). This gave me some hope in what he says. He himself however does not come off to me as a very loving, truthful, honest actor. A case of the seperating the message from the messenger I guess.

Never heard of coast to coast am. Any episodes you highly recommend?

Edited 4 hours ago by LoneWonderer

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@LoneWonderer

Not limited to just the UFO/Alien phenomena? Paranormal etc. These are some of my favourites, but there are more:

The Area 51 Caller (famous terrified caller frantic before the feed was cut)

Mel's Hole (bottomless pit the government was after)

The Father Malachi Martin interviews (fucked up Vatican stories - frightening secrets)

Ghost to ghost AM (annual paranormal stories)

Mad Man Marcum / Time machine man (guy with insane time machine he claimed to have built) 

Officer X interview (nuclear sub officer)

Pamela Stonebrooke (reptilian encounters) 

The Mercenary Gabriel (jailbreaker) 

Major Ed Dames (remote viewing) 

John Lear (Area 51 & UFOs) 

Mind you - the above are a huge mixed bag. Paranormal, non-local awareness, ghosts, UFOs, aliens etc. Many are thought to be urban legends, but Art Bell has a great narrative voice and some stories are enthralling. 

Good rainy day listening  

Edited 4 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[LoneWonderer]

Thank you