UFOs Are Here

[Natasha Tori Maru]

What I class as UFOs is actually an unidentified flying object. As in - these are highly likely to be private contractor owned drone tech as a possibility (among other possibilities). I mean unidentified as in, no one has come out to claim them.

I do think this gets lost sometimes and twisted in with aliens etc

But whatever these government boys are saying publicly - they have been allowed and cleared to say these things. Which is why I think it is a giant red flag.

[LoneWonderer]

New whistleblower. I dont know what you guys are talking about and drawing so many conclusions. This topic is vast, complex and it could be many different things at play including mass scale societal hallucination, but that is just ONE explanation out of many. You guys draw conclusions too quickly and I'd say be careful doing that. At this point no one seems to know what's really going on. It's an open mystery and that's what makes it fun and exciting. Keep an open mind and don't take any of it too seriously. It's a fun way to kill a few hours listening to these conversations and maybe, just maybe we all learn something new, like, maybe, just maybe aliens do exist.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@LoneWonderer I remain totally open with this topic because it could be - as you say - anything. I do see some sketchy stuff though, intermingled with curious reports. 

Cheers for the share !

 

[OBEler]

@Natasha Tori Maru I stay also open to it but remain very sceptical about any public whistleblower or released UFO videos on news. 

[Elliott]

The recent one hit by a hellfire missile was a balloon, the video is wildly misleading because the drone is moving so fast and the balloon and drone are so high.

 

just another distraction from Epstein-Trump files.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Just another distraction from Epstein-Trump files.

This pattern is repeated over and over. Obviously I am not going to go into any wild conspiracy conclusions, but every time there is a huge announcement it coincides with some other chit. 

Same with that comet people are claiming is an alien spacecraft.

Controlled 'disclosure' 

[Elliott]

3 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

This pattern is repeated over and over. Obviously I am not going to go into any wild conspiracy conclusions, but every time there is a huge announcement it coincides with some other chit. 

Same with that comet people are claiming is an alien spacecraft.

Controlled 'disclosure' 

Every person in the military that dealt with this incident knew it was a balloon, immediately.

Ya, like the Comey indictment or army going into Portland now. Hopefully the people that get scared by this stuff learn it's all just hype.

Edited September 28 by Elliott

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Every person in the military that dealt with this incident, immediately knew it was a balloon.

Ya, like the Comey indictment or army going into Portland now. Hopefully the people that get scared by this stuff learn it's all just hype.

Gosh all these heebs got bent out of shape for a balloon? 🎈 Lame

[LoneWonderer]

Jesse Michaels recently released this conversation. I believe these type of conversations do more harm than good. It is in similar style to whatifalthist the YouTuber with cherry picked evidence, sketchy connections etc. I post this as an example to be careful with the type of information you consume and like others in this thread have said stay and remain always very skeptical and use critical thinking always.

*There were a few good points made in this conversation so not to discard completely 

Edited September 29 by LoneWonderer

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@LoneWonderer I watched this also and had the same thoughts.

I felt this was way out there for Jesse - normally he is more rigorous. I think there may even be a trend toward this with him as of late.

I suppose it is in our (some personality types at least) nature to keep digging into a subject thinking there may be more truth there. Especially for those who are intuitive and like to find patterns and read what is between the lines. But typically this doesn't always yield more results: in fact you can become completely lost in hearsay and theory/concepts. Then, before we know it, we are entertaining some whack as fuck conspiracy garbage  

The slow cooking of the mind 

Edited September 30 by Natasha Tori Maru

[theoneandnone]

On 9/27/2025 at 5:16 PM, Elliott said:

The recent one hit by a hellfire missile was a balloon, the video is wildly misleading because the drone is moving so fast and the balloon and drone are so high.

 

just another distraction from Epstein-Trump files.

 

What an idiot swear that guy think he knows everything.

Edited September 30 by theoneandnone

[theoneandnone]

I wanna know why they don’t just show up now. Maybe they are in contracts with world governments and can’t because of mass hysteria. Or they don’t see us as useful to waste their time. I’m ready for them to show up NOW. I’m tired of the games.

[ExploringReality]

Be careful because the UFO can be used as a distraction from government to turn heads and use the timing of its release and curiosity as a way to distract you from seeing how your being fucked in the ass by dry bills, tax cuts for the rich, ect... 

They're gonna tell you to look up while your being fucked from behind 

[Ishanga]

 

[Sandroew]

The day the public gets some hand on evidence, Joe Rogans ego is going to get out of control. Lol

[Ishanga]

4 minutes ago, Sandroew said:

The day the public gets some hand on evidence, Joe Rogans ego is going to get out of control. Lol

video's can be faked, easier today than ever, so what proof would suffice?

I don't trust politicans either, but these ppl are not stupid, they won't destroy their reps, so there has to be some credibility to what they say??

[LoneWonderer]

*Assuming any of this is real

The biggest thing I don't understand is why the Trump administration seems interested for this to come out. The most corrupt government the US has had in years are willing to "REVEAL ALL" regarding this topic. Don't they have national security risks to protect? Haven't the gatekeepers bribed Trump and his cronies enough to not go public? My questioning is why the extremply conservative and corrupt far right goverment currently in the US is so interested in revealing this. There has to be a agenda where they benefit massively from the chaos the knowledge would unleash somehow.

One thing is certain. They are not disclosing out of their kindness for universal love of mankind and people's right to know. That is a bunch of baloney.

Edited 22 hours ago by LoneWonderer

[Ishanga]

24 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

The biggest thing I don't understand is why the Trump administration seems interested for this to come out. The most corrupt government the US has had in years are willing to "REVEAL ALL" regarding this topic. Don't they have national security risks to protect? Haven't the gatekeepers bribed Trump and his cronies enough to not go public? My questioning is why the extremply conservative and corrupt far right goverment currently in the US is so interested in revealing this. There has to be a agenda where they benefit massively from the chaos the knowledge would unleash somehow.

One thing is certain. They are not disclosing out of their kindness for universal love of mankind and people's right to know. That is a bunch of baloney.

I really don't know Man! I don't know who to believe anymore, they all talk a good talk you know! I just can't see them faking it, putting their faces and names towards it and it being fake or some sort of deception!  Grier said there would be maybe some sort of deception before the real reveal, so I guess we will have to see!

[Sandroew]

@Ishanga my joke doesnt reflect my actual stance on this. Judging by the way things are unfolding, my prediction is that in our life time there wont be a hands on evidence made public. And that would be the only type of evidence that would be able to sway the public opinion.

Regarding me, i keep an open mind about it. For me its obvious how impossible is the idea that we are alone in the universe, but its a different question if they are or have been visiting us. Without actual hands on evidence i cant state: yes, they are here; no matter how much i’d like to do that. Thats how many many people feel nowadays with all these whistleblowers, i imagine.

On the other hand i know from first hand experience that supernatural or paranormal phenomena exists, so thats where im coming from.

And then about these guys coming out, David Grusch for example came across very much genuine to me and his story made a lot of sense. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I think this is controlled disclosure. We are being told exactly what they want to tell us.

I've mentioned a couple of times I have had experience with visitors. 

One of the things they 'told' me (told because I don't have a word for it, it is more like transmit or you enter one mind with them) - was that some UAP/UFO's are ours, and some are theirs. The reason our tech hasn't been revealed to us is because it works on free energy. Governments do not wish for a complete collapse of all systems as a result. They were pretty adamant that free energy would end many systems we labour under that keep us somewhat stuck (bills, power, water etc in a cycle of working). These UFOs take energy from the fabric of spacetime itself. Our science and physics has been limited and there are gaps in our knowledge that are intentional. I do recall them impressing upon me to look into why physics hasn't progressed in so long, after so many breakthroughs.

'They' also routinely interfere with nuclear power. This is the one way we can obliterate ourselves. We are very unique in the universe because we are a voiced species who are very very individuated as a result. Supremely creative. 

Dunno if anyone else on this forum has any experiences? These were mantis things - bigger than a doorway, almost room height. With black eyes they did the mind-union thing. The eyes are really frightening. Like falling into too much knowledge.

Anyway feel free to believe this or not. Just what happened to me.