Thrill of the hunt!

[rachMiel]

For those Spiritual Questers whose main source of passion is "the thrill of the hunt," anything that threatens to end that hunt, the arising of spiritual clarity for example, is to be avoided at all cost! The Quest can only continue to deliver its joie de la chasse as long as that which is being hunted for remains unfound. 

Should the Quester happen to find their spiritual prey, they will need to un-find it, so the hunt can continue. They need to be able to un-see the rope and believe (make believe) that it is a snake again. 

 

[Osaid]

"When God is far away in the heavens the ego feels thrilled, then there is adventure. And when I say he is very close by, then the ego feels no interest. Remember this trip of the ego. Ego can play such beautiful games, such beautiful, subtle games, that if you are not aware, you will never get out of it. And unless you get out of it, you will never see God." -Osho

Edited November 18, 2023 by Osaid

[Osaid]

To remedy the sentiment directly, it is fun and feels like solving a murder mystery. But then you also have the rest of life to solve, which is equally and infinitely as mysterious.

[Princess Arabia]

This, I believe, is why so many inherently avoid it at all cost. I think somewhere deep down, we all know but they don't want to spoil the illusion or feel they need to continue in their devilry in order for their survival as a human being. It's not in a conscious level, though, as some are so deeply lost in the dream.

[Bazooka Jesus]

...which is why it has been said that enlightenment is the ego's ultimate disappointment. Unless of course you find a way to use your "awakenings" for puffing up your ego even more, which seems to be the number one most popular sport on this website.

[rachMiel]

32 minutes ago, Osaid said:

"Ego can play such beautiful games, such beautiful, subtle games, " -Osho

I really like that he says beautiful and subtle games, because they are both! (Or at least can be.) 

[rachMiel]

33 minutes ago, Osaid said:

To remedy the sentiment directly, it is fun and feels like solving a murder mystery. But then you also have the rest of life to solve, which is equally and infinitely as mysterious.

But that's the thing, to me (most of us, I'd guess) working on solving the murder mystery is a huge thrill. (Note that I said 'working on solving,' not 'solving'!) The equal and infinite mystery of 'real life' resonates theoretically, but doesn't necessarily feel real. The murder mystery seems funner.

[rachMiel]

29 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

... some are so deeply lost in the dream.

The dream, like the ego Osho spoke about, can be subtle and beautiful. It's understandable that Cypher wanted to stay in the Matrix, I get it. 

[UnbornTao]

Whatever stands in the way of complete enlightenment is to be inquired into, not avoided.

This is the domain of personal transformation.

Edited November 19, 2023 by UnbornTao

[rachMiel]

28 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

...which is why it has been said that enlightenment is the ego's ultimate disappointment. 

You're saying the ego is the Quester? Is it possible that the Quest is driven by the Truth (ground, universe, God, whatever word works) itself? 

[Osaid]

9 minutes ago, rachMiel said:

The equal and infinite mystery of 'real life' resonates theoretically, but doesn't necessarily feel real. The murder mystery seems funner.

Absolutely, that is by design. The "real life" in that scenario is simply what the ego thinks of it.

Until you have solved that mystery, you have not correctly identified what the "player" of life is, and therefore you cannot play the game properly.

Once you realize what you are, you can finally properly perceive life and see it for what it is.

Imagine trying to play Super Mario while thinking you are Bowser instead of Mario, it will be very harrowing and confusing. Bowser (self-proclaimed) will say: "What kind of life is this??"

Basically, it is a completely natural and intuitive sentiment to chase the murder mystery first, and then life after. You cannot do the latter before the former.

Edited November 19, 2023 by Osaid

[Princess Arabia]

40 minutes ago, rachMiel said:

You're saying the ego is the Quester? Is it possible that the Quest is driven by the Truth (ground, universe, God, whatever word works) itself? 

Same thing

[Danioover9000]

@Osaid

1 hour ago, Osaid said:

"When God is far away in the heavens the ego feels thrilled, then there is adventure. And when I say he is very close by, then the ego feels no interest. Remember this trip of the ego. Ego can play such beautiful games, such beautiful, subtle games, that if you are not aware, you will never get out of it. And unless you get out of it, you will never see God." -Osho

   Such an underrated Guru. Shame the situation with his rajneesh community had to end like that with lots of misunderstandings.

[rachMiel]

3 hours ago, Osaid said:

Basically, it is a completely natural and intuitive sentiment to chase the murder mystery first, and then life after. You cannot do the latter before the former.

Thanks. How long does the murder mystery typically take to solve? 

[rachMiel]

 

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

You're saying the ego is the Quester? Is it possible that the Quest is driven by the Truth (ground, universe, God, whatever word works) itself? 

 

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Same thing

Please explain? Thanks! 

[Thought Art]

@rachMiel Unless you can go infinitely deep

[Osaid]

13 minutes ago, rachMiel said:

Thanks. How long does the murder mystery typically take to solve? 

If you are focusing on the right thing, 1-6 months. Took me 1 month of self-inquiry. Those two time frames are within the scope of possibility. Many different things work for different people though. A bit hard to measure what life events helped towards the realization, but that is measuring all the time spent in serious self-inquiry.

If you are following teachings or teachers that don't know what they are talking about, it can become a serious red herring and waste a lot of time. It can feel like you're making a lot of progress, but you're not. You get a lot of smart and clever ideas about reality, which feels like progress, but they are simply ideas and unrelated to what you are.

Edited November 19, 2023 by Osaid

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, rachMiel said:

 

 

Please explain? Thanks! 

I'm just saying that the Ego is the same as God. God manifested.

[rachMiel]

35 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm just saying that the Ego is the same as God. God manifested.

Love it! :-) 

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, rachMiel said:

Love it! :-) 

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