What the fuck is Consciousness?

[Inliytened1]

Have we narrowed it down yet?  

[strangelooper]

A sense of existence with infinite power because it is nothing

[Inliytened1]

Just now, strangelooper said:

A sense of existence with infinite power because it is nothing

Stop at a sense of existence.   You exist.   But you've gone too far now.   Who is you?

[strangelooper]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Stop at a sense of existence.   You exist.   But you've gone too far now.   Who is you?

In my view a you is just an entity that exists, it doesn't need a self

[Inliytened1]

Just now, strangelooper said:

In my view a you is just an entity that exists, it doesn't need a self

So there's just existence.  Pure existence.   Indeed.  But what is that?  

[Inliytened1]

@Water by the River would like to hear from you.  I know what the answer is.  But i want to hear it from you.

[Water by the River]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Water by the River would like to hear from you.  I know what the answer is.  But i want to hear it from you.

Water by the River 

 

 

[Someone here]

Precisely what's happening right now . Nothing more .nothing less .

[UnbornTao]

It isn't about answers, agreement, conclusion, desire, conviction or belief, and nobody has.

Edited November 4, 2023 by UnbornTao

[Water by the River]

And after the one-liner, just because this passage in the letters of Bassui is so beautiful:

At work, at rest, never stop trying to realize who it is that hears. Even though your questioning penetrates the unconscious, you won’t find the one who hears, and all your efforts will come to naught. Yet sounds can be heard, so question yourself to an even profounder level. At last every vestige of self-awareness will disappear and you will feel like a cloudless sky. Within yourself you will find no “I,” nor will you discover anyone who hears.

This Mind is like the void, yet it hasn’t a single spot that can be called empty. Do not mistake this state for Self-realization, but continue to ask yourself even more intensely,

“Now who is it that hears?” If you bore and bore into this question, oblivious to anything else, even this feeling of voidness will vanish and you won’t be aware of anything—total darkness will prevail. [Don’t stop here, but] keep asking with all your strength, “What is it that hears?”

Only when you have completely exhausted the questioning will the question burst; now you will feel like someone who has come back from the dead. This is true realization. You will see the Buddhas of all the universes face-to-face and the Dharma Ancestors past and present. Test yourself with this koan: “A monk asked Joshu: “What is the meaning of Bodhidharma’s coming to China?’ Joshu replied: ‘The oak tree in the garden.’ ”Should this koan leave you with the slightest doubt, you need to resume questioning, “What is it that hears?”

Edited November 4, 2023 by Water by the River

[Inliytened1]

13 minutes ago, Water by the River said:

Water by the River 

 

 

Precisely.

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

No. Nobody has and it isn't an answer.

There is one. 

[UnbornTao]

"Insert anything here"

Edited November 4, 2023 by UnbornTao

[Razard86]

whatever it imagines itself to be and nothing can stop it from imagining but itself.

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

whatever it imagines itself to be and nothing can stop it from imagining but itself.

But you assume there is a whatever.   That was assumed.  What creates the whatever part.

[Inliytened1]

17 minutes ago, Water by the River said:

And after the one-liner, just because this passage in the letters of Bassui is so beautiful:

At work, at rest, never stop trying to realize who it is that hears. Even though your questioning penetrates the unconscious, you won’t find the one who hears, and all your efforts will come to naught. Yet sounds can be heard, so question yourself to an even profounder level. At last every vestige of self-awareness will disappear and you will feel like a cloudless sky. Within yourself you will find no “I,” nor will you discover anyone who hears.

This Mind is like the void, yet it hasn’t a single spot that can be called empty. Do not mistake this state for Self-realization, but continue to ask yourself even more intensely,

“Now who is it that hears?” If you bore and bore into this question, oblivious to anything else, even this feeling of voidness will vanish and you won’t be aware of anything—total darkness will prevail. [Don’t stop here, but] keep asking with all your strength, “What is it that hears?”

Only when you have completely exhausted the questioning will the question burst; now you will feel like someone who has come back from the dead. This is true realization. You will see the Buddhas of all the universes face-to-face and the Dharma Ancestors past and present. Test yourself with this koan: “A monk asked Joshu: “What is the meaning of Bodhidharma’s coming to China?’ Joshu replied: ‘The oak tree in the garden.’ ”Should this koan leave you with the slightest doubt, you need to resume questioning, “What is it that hears?”

It just IS!  Why can't we be OK with that?  

[Water by the River]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

It just IS!  Why can't we be OK with that?  

We can.

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Water by the River said:

We can.

😀

[Inliytened1]

27 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Precisely what's happening right now . Nothing more .nothing less .

Precisely. 

[Adrian colby]

Consciousness is the other side of awareness that knows things. Con ‘with’ science ‘knowing’. It forms itself within awareness. Awareness is the ‘nothing’ within which all consciousness ‘something’ takes place. 
awareness is the absolute and consciousness is god, The mind that formed itself within its own awareness.