Transgenderism and transrace

[Danioover9000]

@RendHeaven

6 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

Based. Speaking strictly technically, nonbinary/trans folk have disrupted hormones from modern environmental poisoning to an unprecedented degree. Perhaps they have "some kind of other personal issues/illnesses in their life" as well, but that alone does not lead to "identity complications."

Merely being anxious or traumatized does not lead a biological man to identify as a woman.

Constantly being blasted by estrogenics, heavy metals, hyperprocessed foods, lack of sunlight and sleep, non-native EMFs, plastics, etc. (and stack malnourishment on top of that) for decades will slowly lead a biological man to identify as a woman.

   This does seem to factor in and correlate to the increase in the transgenderism in some schools, but it's not clear how it effects transrace. A possible issue I have with this is that it's heavily drawing from inferences and inductive reasoning. For example, just because a person/group is constantly blasted(needs specific timeframe, too general) by estrogenics, heavy metals, hyper processed foods, lack of sunlight, sleep, non-native EMFs, plastics, increase in malnutrition,(these factors need more specifics like time and amounts)  for decades, does not necessarily means the direct consequence of a biological man slowly identifying as a woman, at best it's either strongly correlated or mixed correlation towards increases of transgenderism and transrace.

   Why isn't anxiety and trauma not the leading factor in a biological man to identify as a woman? Or as another race?

   I partly agree with both @Roy and your take on this point, to me it's dependent on stage of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits(I think with Roy here he's referring to higher neurosis and higher scores in agreeableness, messiness and introversion, and lack of boundary enforcement which allows outside peers and group conformity to effect this personality far more), states of consciousness, life experiences, fear barriers, other lines of development in various life domains up to societal domains, and ideological indoctrinations.  

Edited May 3, 2023 by Danioover9000

[DrugsBunny]

8 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

 

My showing some support for a moderator here in a joking manner is my business and the Mod, which didn't warrant any concern from you. Remember, you decided to involve yourself here, you are the attacker and initiator here, not the other way around bunny.

For someone at your speed, explaining why your post serves as an inflammatory catalyst is probably best achieved by an obnoxious meme formatted JPEG, since verbally conveyed concepts are often beyond your comprehension.

9 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

 

At this point a public apology from you from some of your defamatory statements about me that are clearly no true might be in order, and would be nice given the grief you're causing me lately.

I've only stated that the transphobe community isn't sending their brightest in you, which your consistent inability to form coherent sentences seems to validate.

8 hours ago, Roy said:

I do and that's what makes this whole thing so great. I can make idiots trip over themselves and still have the last laugh.

Winning! So much winning I almost can't handle it.

Roy's got black friends, trans friends, disabled friends, blind friends and even albino friends! Such a popular guy, nevermind that by "friends" he simply means any person who regards him with a status marginally above house plant.

So much winning, especially within the genetic lottery, what an IQ! Did you come up with that "attack helicopter" argument all by yourself? You must be the envy of your neighborhood with your certified 'forum moderator' credentials.

[RendHeaven]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

For example, just because a person/group is constantly blasted(needs specific timeframe, too general) by estrogenics, heavy metals, hyper processed foods, lack of sunlight, sleep, non-native EMFs, plastics, increase in malnutrition,(these factors need more specifics like time and amounts)  for decades, does not necessarily means the direct consequence of a biological man slowly identifying as a woman, at best it's either strongly correlated or mixed correlation towards increases of transgenderism and transrace.

I'm not even stating a correlation, I'm invoking a strict mechanical causation. All the things I've listed WILL measurably drop your testosterone levels, and a dangerously low T-level is known to feminize your behavior and conduct. Of course, this alone does not produce a transgender person by itself.

Many biological men will still identify as men, albeit a more feminine one. But I have no doubt that any biological man who claims to identify as a woman, or non-binary, thereby disowning masculinity, is a victim of modern environmental toxins and unnatural living conditions. Because this is not something you could do if you had raging testosterone levels lol. You may be right that the factor pushing trans/nonbinary people over the edge is cognitive development. It's not just hormones by itself. I suppose I'm just stating that hormones is the initial instigator that begins the sequence of identity complications.

In nature we observe male fish that have been poisoned with heavy metals will literally grow female sex organs. Not saying that humans and fish are the same, but don't think for a second that human populations are somehow immune to the havoc that heavy metals will wreak on sexual function.

Although trans-acceptance is one path forward, and I'm not particularly opposed to this path per se, the fact remains that the majority of trans people are essentially victims of chemical warfare. I'm moreso shocked that nobody is discussing this side of the equation. And of course, it's not just trans people, but all of us. We're ALL being blasted by environmental toxins and unnatural living conditions... you and I are just somehow the lucky ones that still remain comfortable in our own skin.

Edited May 3, 2023 by RendHeaven

[Danioover9000]

   This is the more dangerous side of dysphoria, not so gender dysphoria but this dysphoria is seriously dangerous:

   Now multiply that towards a growing collective problem, and we end up with mass neurosis and psychosis. There's good reason why on average people most identify as heterosexual, cis gender, whilst aligned with their biological sex as the most average, then those who still are their biological sex but are gay, then the LGBTQP minorities. On an individual level this person should seek help to correct their dysphoria of whatever, but if we have groups of people and cultures okaying this behavior and thinking, and trying to program and manufacture consent in the population that it's fine for people to become blind if they feel they're supposed to be blind, even when biologically they're fine, even when some are just confused with their feelings, they want to be blind but not sure, yet they're circumstances are fine, they're going through SD stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality and psychological development, but are peer pressured into doubling down into their confusion and make the wrong choice then we will start having issues that can grow and multiply. Again, it's the ratio of group conformity and ideology that's concerning more so than the inborn gender dysphoria.

Edited May 4, 2023 by Danioover9000

[Danioover9000]

@DrugsBunny

2 hours ago, DrugsBunny said:

For someone at your speed, explaining why your post serves as an inflammatory catalyst is probably best achieved by an obnoxious meme formatted JPEG, since verbally conveyed concepts are often beyond your comprehension.

I've only stated that the transphobe community isn't sending their brightest in you, which your consistent inability to form coherent sentences seems to validate.

Roy's got black friends, trans friends, disabled friends, blind friends and even albino friends! Such a popular guy, nevermind that by "friends" he simply means any person who regards him with a status marginally above house plant.

So much winning, especially within the genetic lottery, what an IQ! Did you come up with that "attack helicopter" argument all by yourself? You must be the envy of your neighborhood with your certified 'forum moderator' credentials.

   Again, notice how you're now doubling down and attacking me, yet again threatening forum guidelines. Instead of being a smart ass, a jerk, close minded, dogmatic, cynical person, why not try to be more open minded, willing to learn, and curb the derogatory remarks of me, and slander of me being transphobic when it's fundamentally your delusion at this point?

   Again everyone reading, notice I'm just responding, I'm not attacking this bunny guy. he's bullying and attacking me, calling me a transphobe and other horrific name callings at me like rapist and schizophrenic. And I'm chill and indifferent. If any of you are being bullied and stalked like this, you should report the user every time, 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Danioover9000

[Roy]

3 hours ago, DrugsBunny said:

Roy's got black friends, trans friends, disabled friends, blind friends and even albino friends! Such a popular guy, nevermind that by "friends" he simply means any person who regards him with a status marginally above house plant.

You're so mad you even made a meme about it lol. I'm gonna contact some scientists to harness your rage as an endless source of renewable energy.

I'm gonna be on TOP of being popular 

So much winning.

Edited May 4, 2023 by Roy

[Roy]

@RendHeaven While Alex Jones is a paranoid lunatic, maybe underneath all his concern there is something to "the water turning the frogs gay".

It doesn't take much intuition to realize all the chemicals, pollution, and other by products we indirectly (and directly) consume from human activity could have some serious impacts on our health (and therefore our brains/psychology).

[DrugsBunny]

1 minute ago, Roy said:

You're so mad you even made a meme about it lol. I'm gonna contact some scientists to harness your rage as an endless source of renewable energy.

This grown man has just been reduced to the pitiful "umad bro?" retort. What are you like 40? What an embarrassing defense mechanism, yikes... ??

34 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

he's bullying and attacking me, calling me a transphobe and other horrific name callings at me like rapist and schizophrenic.

The fact that you've managed to fictitiously concoct a false memory of me calling you "rapist" and "schizophrenic" is reason enough to write you off as at least one of those things.

You're definitely a transphobe, you literally used the Nashville shooting as evidence that trans people pose a threat to society, when I pointed out the statistics on this graph you said "Yes, most are not trans but the fact that even 1 shooter was trans means trans people can commit violence too", which is, without jest, in all seriousness, the stupidest thing I've ever seen posted on this forum.

[Roy]

Let me break it down for the DrugsBunnies of the world and other people who can't understand my position. I'll make it REALLY simple and if you could put aside your default addiction to moral outrage for just 45 seconds, you might understand and we could move forward if even just an inch.

Religious Person - "I have been a devout Christian my entire life. After much prayer I came in direct contact with God. He told me that Jesus will return on the 2nd of November, 2043. In Witchita, Kansas. This truth was as clear and bright as the sun to me. The experience has enriched my life and made me happy and given me purpose. I need you to believe this."

Me - "While I respect you and your beliefs, and don't deny the direct experience you say you had. I don't believe God speaks to people directly in conversation, and I find it very unlikely Jesus will return to that location on that day, as he has been dead for 2000+ years. I don't even believe the Christian God in particular exists as you do."

Trans Person - "Ever since I was roughly an adolescent I have felt like a man (male), but I was born and trapped in a woman's (female) body. I've put in a lot of work to transition and become the closest thing to a man that I can. Although I will never pass completely, and don't have a fully functional male reproductive system, I need you to believe that I am a man.

Me - I respect you and want you to have the freedom to make choices with yourself and your body that allow you to be happy and fulfilled. While I will refer to you however you please, and do my best to accommodate you as seamlessly as possible by treating you socially as any other male acquaintances I have, I will never personally fundamentally believe you are a man (male).

It's interesting how Progressives and Religious people both have the same fundamental cult like demands.

They both require you to make a leap of faith and BELIEVE what they do, otherwise you are on the "outgroup" of everyone who isn't them. You are a "phobe" of some kind, or a "heathen".

How does it feel to have more in common with the Westboro Baptist Church than I do LOL?

Edited May 4, 2023 by Roy

[DrugsBunny]

@Roy Such powerful ignorance, it's quite impressive actually.

Honestly my good man, you'd be seriously devastated by the brutal epiphany of how bafflingly fucking stupid your perspective is if the divine revelation ever magically occurred to you.

There is no "belief" whatsoever involved in my position, which is as follows:

1. As a society we should attempt to glean the highest amount of utility from language as is conceptually possible. Linguistic utility can simply be considered the usage of language which sufficiently accounts for all varieties of people, so long as this inclusivity does not affront the unadulterated truth. Thankfully with trans people, such a solution is very feasible.
    
2. Sex and gender are two distinct things, not because somebody said so, but because it indisputably serves the highest utility to acknowledge the distinction between the anatomical male/female binary vs the "man" and "woman" gender roles. Sex refers strictly to your physical anatomy (ie. facial hair, penis/vagina, breasts), whereas gender refers to how you express yourself in relation to the commonly associated traits of the male/female binary (ie. clothing, femininity/masculinity, vocal tonality). 
    
3. Gender dysphoria is a valid condition that severely threatens the quality of life for many people suffering from it, as it is a scientifically substantiated affliction, bearing no semblance of likeness with the asinine concept of "transracialism" (the obscure, entirely unsubstantiated concept regarding the presupposed fictional phenomenon of "racial dysphoria"), therefore people with this socially devastating affliction should be accommodated with our use of language and our social expectations regarding gender.
    
4. Because not all people can comfortably conform to rigid gender roles and the imposing social expectations therein, the terms "man" and "woman" provide the most societal utility when they are regarded as social categories which allow for appropriate usage in reference to any person who identifies with the respective gender role of their choice. 
    
5. Because sex and gender are not the same thing, a biologically ordained 'female' suffering from gender dysphoria can adopt the "man" gender role, or vice versa, and our societal accommodation of such people is a practical, feasible and morally appropriate application of our linguistic utility. 

Words change, language evolves, just deal with it. It may make you uncomfortable to acknowledge that trans people are valid, but try to recognize this is only a product of your closed-mindedness and your primitive inclinations to dehumanize people who don't conform to your bigoted expectations. 

Again, nobody is denying that cis women and trans women are two distinct varieties of women. Of course they are different. The only thing I'm saying is, you're seriously kidding yourselves if you think it makes sense to call Blaire White (a deplorable self-hating transphobe, who is only used as an example because they pass exceptionally well) a man because technically they were born with a penis. That would be such an absurd and contrived example of ideological stubbornness. 

[Israfil]

 

42 minutes ago, DrugsBunny said:

Such powerful ignorance, it's quite impressive actually.

Honestly my good man, you'd be seriously devastated by the brutal epiphany of how bafflingly fucking stupid your perspective is if the divine revelation ever magically occurred to you.

There is no "belief" whatsoever involved in my position, which is as follows:

1. As a society we should attempt to glean the highest amount of utility from language as is conceptually possible. Linguistic utility can simply be considered the usage of language which sufficiently accounts for all varieties of people, so long as this inclusivity does not affront the unadulterated truth. Thankfully with trans people, such a solution is very feasible.
    
2. Sex and gender are two distinct things, not because somebody said so, but because it indisputably serves the highest utility to acknowledge the distinction between the anatomical male/female binary vs the "man" and "woman" gender roles. Sex refers strictly to your physical anatomy (ie. facial hair, penis/vagina, breasts), whereas gender refers to how you express yourself in relation to the commonly associated traits of the male/female binary (ie. clothing, femininity/masculinity, vocal tonality). 
    
3. Gender dysphoria is a valid condition that severely threatens the quality of life for many people suffering from it, as it is a scientifically substantiated affliction, bearing no semblance of likeness with the asinine concept of "transracialism" (the obscure, entirely unsubstantiated concept regarding the presupposed fictional phenomenon of "racial dysphoria"), therefore people with this socially devastating affliction should be accommodated with our use of language and our social expectations regarding gender.
    
4. Because not all people can comfortably conform to rigid gender roles and the imposing social expectations therein, the terms "man" and "woman" provide the most societal utility when they are regarded as social categories which allow for appropriate usage in reference to any person who identifies with the respective gender role of their choice. 
    
5. Because sex and gender are not the same thing, a biologically ordained 'female' suffering from gender dysphoria can adopt the "man" gender role, or vice versa, and our societal accommodation of such people is a practical, feasible and morally appropriate application of our linguistic utility. 

Words change, language evolves, just deal with it. It may make you uncomfortable to acknowledge that trans people are valid, but try to recognize this is only a product of your closed-mindedness and your primitive inclinations to dehumanize people who don't conform to your bigoted expectations. 

Again, nobody is denying that cis women and trans women are two distinct varieties of women. Of course they are different. The only thing I'm saying is, you're seriously kidding yourselves if you think it makes sense to call Blaire White (a deplorable self-hating transphobe, who is only used as an example because they pass exceptionally well) a man because technically they were born with a penis. That would be such an absurd and contrived example of ideological stubbornness. 

@DrugsBunny Such powerful ignorance, it's quite impressive actually.

Honestly my good man, you'd be seriously devastated by the brutal epiphany of how bafflingly fucking stupid your perspective is if the divine revelation ever magically occurred to you.

There is no "belief" whatsoever involved in my position, which is as follows:

As a society we should attempt to glean the highest amount of utility from language as is conceptually possible. Linguistic utility can simply be considered the usage of language which sufficiently accounts for all varieties of people, so long as this inclusivity does not affront the unadulterated truth. Thankfully with transgender people, such a solution is very feasible.
 

Race and race identity are two distinct things, not because somebody said so, but because it indisputably serves the highest utility to acknowledge the distinction between the anatomical racial characteristics vs the "white" and "black" socio-cultural roles. Race refers strictly to your physical anatomy (ie. facial hair, penis/vagina, breasts), whereas socio-cultural roles refers to how you express yourself in relation to the commonly associated traits of the racial spectrum (ie. clothing, culture, speech tonality). 
 

Racial dysphoria is a valid condition that severely threatens the quality of life for many people suffering from it, as it is a scientifically substantiated affliction, bearing no semblance of likeness with the asinine concept of "transgederism" (the obscure, entirely unsubstantiated concept regarding the presupposed fictional phenomenon of "gender dysphoria"), therefore people with this socially devastating affliction should be accommodated with our use of language and our social expectations regarding race.
 

Because not all people can comfortably conform to rigid racial roles and the imposing social expectations therein, the terms "white" and "black" provide the most societal utility when they are regarded as social categories which allow for appropriate usage in reference to any person who identifies with the respective racial role of their choice. 
 

Because race and race identity are not the same thing, a biologically ordained 'black' suffering from gender dysphoria can adopt the "white" racial role, or vice versa, and our societal accommodation of such people is a practical, feasible and morally appropriate application of our linguistic utility. 

Words change, language evolves, just deal with it. It may make you uncomfortable to acknowledge that transracial people are valid, but try to recognize this is only a product of your closed-mindedness and your primitive inclinations to dehumanize people who don't conform to your bigoted expectations. 

Again, nobody is denying that cis black and trans white are two distinct varieties of black. Of course they are different. The only thing I'm saying is, you're seriously kidding yourselves if you think it makes sense to call Blaire White (a deplorable self-hating racist, who is only used as an example because they pass exceptionally well) a white because technically they were born with a small dick. That would be such an absurd and contrived example of ideological stubbornness. 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Israfil

[Roy]

You're basically just having an argument with yourself. Perhaps consider I haven't felt the need to contend with a lot of your points because I AGREE with them. I'm with you 99% of the way except for that last 1%, where you expect me to make the final plunge and baptize myself. In what I don't even know anymore, because my entire contention is that despite whatever language games we play there is a difference between a cis women (which everyone considers real women by the way) and trans women (which is its own distinct category), which you just pointed out;

1 hour ago, DrugsBunny said:

Again, nobody is denying that cis women and trans women are two distinct varieties of women. Of course they are different.

Everyone knows that difference is there and you for some reason acknowledge it, yet simotaneously and incoherently expect people to pretend its not there. Not just in language either, at a more fundamental intuitive level as well. If it was just the first you would be ok with the fact I am willing to adjust my behavior and use pronouns, but you aren't ok with just that. You expect full ideological adherence, and rest assured it is an ideology. Maybe take a listen to Leo's Cult Psychology videos and you'll see what every other (sane) person does.

The problem we are running into is an impasse between language and meaning. A new(ish) category of "women" has been thrust into societies collective consciousness, and we are being forced in assimilate it into what everyone else has agreed what the word "woman" has meant for the past who knows how many years. This change might be in good in intention but won't work when language and meaning don't align at a fundamental level.

You're expecting everyone stand on linguistic stilts and juggle non-truths, saying words they don't really mean and everybody knows they don't mean in opposition to their own intuition. An intuition that nearly all of humanity has, by the way. All in service of an unfortunately suicidal and narcissistic extreme minority. Talk about skating up an ice-hill.

"Hey mom I met this really great woman and got into a relationship with her. I think she's the one!"

"Great, what's her name? Do you think you'll have children one day?"

"Well the thing is she isn't a "woman" like you would assume mom. She is a trans woman, so no we can't have children."

In a normal world people would just be able to say what is factually truth and use words that people can understand what they mean. YES trans women are also "women" but when push comes to shove and those differences WHICH YOU ACKNOWLEDGE EXIST inevitably arise we will all be confused and condemned because we were all expected to lie and say something is a spade when it is really not a spade.

We don't live in a normal world though, we live in clown world. We can't just say they are "trans women" from the start in conversation and all have a peaceful understanding. We are being guilted and shamed and gaslit by cultural terrorists who apparently don't have anything better to do with their time than make irrational unrealistic demands that undermine our entire conception of basic words for like, 10,000 people LMAO.

Don't get so mad at me by the way, I am just the messenger saying what we are all thinking. I just have the guts to say it and I'm not scared of the mob. You can't cancel me bitch, I'm like Agent Smith baby I'll just multiply 

Everyone knows we are just playing pretend for adults. Everyone is going along because it's the mature thing to do and it's good for social cohesion. But nobody actually believes that trans people are the same as what people REALLY mean when they say "man" or "woman",  besides a minority of unhinged 20-something year old progressives that haven't accomplished anything in their lives, besides graduating I guess.

It doesn't make anybody a right winger to point this out either. The difference between a dumbass right winger and me is a dumbass right winger will actively vote to impede or take trans peoples well deserved rights away, while I've only ever voted for the NDP in my country 

I'm not talking to you anymore by the way so save your energy responding. I know and I'm sure the readers know I'm on the right side of history. I don't need to cast aspersions about how many friends you have or what your IQ is, everyone can see the circus. I don't need to help advertise! Have fun and enjoy clown world!

Edit: The only thing I will say is I'm willing to bet my life is the roles were reversed and you were the mod I would have been banished not even 2 comments into the thread. That's how I know on a deeper level I'm better than you 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Roy

[Roy]

This thread should be a footnote for an example of toxic Green in Spiral Dynamics. I know I obviously didn't articulate myself in the most formal manner but really it's because I don't care that much and don't have time to waste energy on essays for internet strangers. It's just a forum for shooting the shit and bouncing ideas around.

I've literally been playing Battlefield 1 and eating all dressed chips while wrecking this dude lol, top frag every game too.

Edited May 4, 2023 by Roy

[DrugsBunny]

3 minutes ago, Roy said:

 

Yikes, my dude...

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Clown_World

It's sad when you've resorted to citing the notorious Nazi dog-whistle meme. How appropriate, as you take the L, you inadvertently reveal your unflattering political allegiances, as anybody can clearly see the contemptible origins of this meme you've referenced 2 times now by clicking the rationalwiki.org link.

12 minutes ago, Roy said:

Everyone knows that difference is there and you for some reason acknowledge it, yet simotaneously and incoherently expect people to pretend its not there.

Nobody is pretending the difference is not there... You literally read me clearly stating that the difference is obviously there, it's just not a difference that warrants rejecting the preferred gender identity. You keep refusing to acknowledge the fact that there exist biologically ordained females who cannot give birth, this does not make them a fake woman.

We're basically in 99% agreement, except you insist on throwing in "BTW, you're not a real woman" which serves no purpose apart from being a juvenile asshole. That's literally your whole position. "I acknowledge you have gender dysphoria, and you are a trans woman, but you're not a REAL woman". My position is the same, except there is literally no purpose in throwing in the last part, none whatsoever. 

Actually explain to me what purpose is there in throwing that in? Just because it's "true"? It's only true if you reject the natural evolution of language, as an arbitrary whim based on ideological stubbornness, there's no other purpose. If you actually provide one I'll delete my account.

5 minutes ago, Roy said:

This thread should be a footnote for an example of toxic Green in Spiral Dynamics. I know I obviously didn't articulate myself in the most formal manner but really it's because I don't care that much and don't have time to waste energy on essays for internet strangers. It's just a forum for shooting the shit and bouncing ideas around.

I've literally been playing Battlefield 1 and eating all dressed chips while wrecking this dude lol, top frag every game too.

Making excuses for coming off as an edgy 14 year old despite being like 40. Haha, I'd imagine Leo would read this even in spite of his transphobia wishing that his political allies had more wits to present your perspective, because you've really done a disservice to your cause.

[Roy]

19 minutes ago, DrugsBunny said:

It's sad when you've resorted to citing the notorious Nazi dog-whistle meme.

The fact an innocuous frog with a red nose has had it's narrative manipulated into being associated with those who perpetuated the holocaust.... is evidence of clown world ???

19 minutes ago, DrugsBunny said:

BTW, you're not a real woman

Only people who bring it up for the sake of bringing it up, are being assholes. They know what they are doing.

Any other time it's because it's an accurate factual statement based in reality.

19 minutes ago, DrugsBunny said:

Actually explain to me what purpose is there in throwing that in? Just because it's "true"? It's only true if you reject the natural evolution of language, as an arbitrary whim based on ideological stubbornness, there's no other purpose. If you actually provide one I'll delete my account.

Because truth takes priority over peoples feelings.

Here is an example; Medical professionals might need to correctly identify or assume the sex and anatomy of an individual who has been in an accident in order to perform a life saving surgery. For example the male and female pelvic bones are different to a significant degree and can house enough pooling blood to be fatal. The difference in operating on such a dynamic and large part of the body that can vary between sexes is complicated and can mean the difference between bleeding out and not bleeding out.

I guess the doctor will get cancelled and lose his job after saving someone's life though, because the hospitals camera caught him misgendering them.

Now delete your account lol.

Edited May 4, 2023 by Roy

[Buck Edwards]

@DrugsBunny there is no point in arguing with strangers online. They're indirectly destroying your health very badly and you won't realize it until it's too late. They won't change who they are. 

Their own shallow opinions will make them miserable in the end. Kind of poetic justice. Better that way. 

 

[Buck Edwards]

@DrugsBunny I worry about you. 

 

[Roy]

34 minutes ago, DrugsBunny said:

You keep refusing to acknowledge the fact that there exist biologically ordained females who cannot give birth, this does not make them a fake woman.

I didn't refuse to acknowledge it. I just assumed (incorrectly) you would be able answer the problem yourself instead of me having to tell you it. Well here we go;

A biologically ordained female who cannot give birth is just an unfortunately defective female. She still has all the parts, they just don't work for whatever unfortunate reason. Hopefully they can be fixed.

A trans woman never had the parts to begin with, so not the same as a defective biological female.

And don't suggest they should be given the parts to give birth either, because that's a fucking abomination. That kind of experimenting will lead to countless dead and deformed infants. I'll have no part supporting it. Absolutely vile.

Edited May 4, 2023 by Roy

[Buck Edwards]

Leo should seriously lock this thread. It's unbearably dogmatic. 

 

[DrugsBunny]

26 minutes ago, Roy said:

The fact an innocuous frog with a red nose has had it's narrative manipulated into being associated with those who perpetuated the holocaust.... is evidence of clown world ???

The narrative was never manipulated, it literally originated from online neo-nazis lol. The only people who use this meme are people who got it from their favorite alt-right content creators who perpetuated the meme to them. You probably watch Tim Pool don't you.

13 minutes ago, Roy said:

And don't suggest they should be given the parts to give birth either, because that's a fucking abomination. That kind of experimenting will lead to countless dead and deformed infants. I'll have no part supporting it. Absolutely vile.

You just sound deranged now. No it is not feasible for such a surgery, but if it were possible to perfectly match a biological females anatomy via surgery, your position would demand that you still call them a fake woman, which is just absurd and closed-minded.

15 minutes ago, Enlightement said:

Their own shallow opinions will make them miserable in the end. Kind of poetic justice. Better that way. 

Their misery is not something I take solace in. In my mind it makes no sense how a person could deny the irrefutable truths I have presented, regardless of how their pitiable circumstances may skew their biases. 

14 minutes ago, Enlightement said:

@DrugsBunny I worry about you. 

No need, there are far worse ailments one could suffer beyond the incessant reminders of human stupidity I am inundated with by these people.