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Why leo says no one is awake

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2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

When they become real to you and then you look to them for Truth, you are deceiving yourself that Truth can manifest from second order.  Truth is first order but self deception will trap you into thinking that second order, or concept, is Truth.  And then you don't actually awake.  @Consilience understands the difference but most will not.   Either way ultimately you must become your own Master.  After which everything else just becomes, well, second order.

Yes, you must eventually let go of the guru, or of the meditation practice, but it doesn't negate their value whatsoever.


Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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6 minutes ago, amanen said:

Now all the Buddhists will come after you

A real Buddhist understands impermanence is a teaching specific to form. 

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@Leo Gura Why Peter Ralston all of the sudden? I remember you have always put him above other teachers but also you always said he was atustic and doesn't understand Love.


How would you like to die, Tyrion son of Tywin?”

“In my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a maiden’s mouth around my cock, at the age of eighty,” he replied.

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Okay, enough monkey business. Go do something useful. None of this will be resolved with more talking.

You shouldn't believe anything I say, rather pursue whatever is true for you.

Edited by Leo Gura

You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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This topic devolved into a sad mixture of meta-ironic guru double-speak and sarcastic jokes. it's almost like somebody is going to be thrown out from the forum again.


Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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