Girlfriend won't let me watch porn...

[Carl-Richard]

9 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

What kills me the most is how porn didn't even exist just one hundred years ago

Hahaha

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Depictions of a sexual nature have existed since prehistoric times, as seen in the Venus figurines and rock art. A vast number of artifacts have been discovered from ancient Mesopotamia depicting explicit heterosexual sex.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography#History

[Carl-Richard]

13 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Right now, most men masturbate daily

No 

[Carl-Richard]

48 minutes ago, KH2 said:

I think lows and highs in sexual interest are fairly common amongst all men, masturbators and non masturbators. You can't really predict the exact time and date when your sexual interest dips.

I just think it's a weird way to motivate yourself when most people report a dip after 2 weeks. It also fits with my personal experience.

[Tyler Robinson]

20 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

You know you can masturbate perfectly fine without porn, right? And

To be honest, not so sure about that one. When I needed to do that, I either needed assistance of (porn) or imagining that my boyfriend was doing (somethings) to me. I don't know how to do that with nothing to feed my mind. Nearly impossible unless you're talking about clitoral stuff, but that's not easy at all, after a while there's zero stimulus. You gotta be creative(mentally). 

[zurew]

23 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

When you try to masturbate without porn, you notice that it actually takes work and energy

Yep and time as well. If you don't have time to think up images in your head or if you don't have good visual imagination then you could waste a lot of time and energy to try to masturbate without porn. Porn makes it more easy and you still don't have to do it every day.

[Tyler Robinson]

2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Tyler Robinson I think this might be the case because you are too disconnected from your body. Personally, I actually prefer to masturbate without any fantazies at all, focusing purely on sensations and it feels pretty great.

And doing this while on mushrooms is 10 times better, seriously, no porn can compare, and it also feels more healthy and natural to me.

Umm don't know how that works. Most people I know have never said something like that to me. They need something imaginative and or visual to get stimulated. 

[Tyler Robinson]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

think that you need to have social stigma programmed into you, and actually think that it is somehow wrong or edgy to get turned of by it. That's also why church members are often known for being the biggest perverts, I guess.

I never thought that it was wrong or edgy to physically stimulate myself. That's not the problem at all. I never shamed myself. So I'm not the church type. When I was 14, I remember stimulating myself for the first time and I still needed to imagine something. It never happened on its own. So I'm kinda stumped that you do it like that. I simply don't think it's possible. Maybe for men, but still, most men I spoke with never admitted to such a thing. I mean, makes you wonder why porn is so popular. And no, porn has a long history. It didn't suddenly come out of nowhere. It existed for millenia. It just wasn't too prevalent but not non existent. 

[Tyler Robinson]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

Also it's kind of funny because I thought that it would be easier for a girl to get in touch with her bodily sensations than it is for an average guy.

I get the idea that you're somehow clueless on female biology. Have you been with a female in bed? Women orgasm slowly but much more intensely, you have to build them up to climax, women need an awful lot of emotional and mental stimulation to reach orgasmic levels, even if they're horny, that's why we use the word "orgasming" instead of "jerking off." 

I'm curious where you get your ideas about women,sure as hell you aren't getting those from a relationship. 

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, KH2 said:

After the dip, things go back to normal, aren't they? It's not like you become impotent on nofap or semen retention, you function like a normal human being - a human being that doesn't waste time jerking off to pixels, I might add.

Not necessarily. The effects of emotional repression can be severe. You're conditioning yourself to act a certain way in response to a stimulus, and this creates lasting changes that may only be reversed through a lot of effort and rehabilitation. Also just generally, the act of ignoring the meaningful content behind a feeling is inherently neurotic and will bleed over to other aspects of your psychology. Your body is intelligent and knows exactly what it needs, and it tells you this through feelings. You just need to be able to distinguish between mental compulsions and organic stimuli (what you want vs. what you need). It's easy to know when you're fapping because of true horniness or because of habit, but less so if you're used to repressing all the feelings related to it.

[Carl-Richard]

7 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

I guess you could call her an incel altogether, propagating incel dogma, as you have mentioned before.

I'm only arguing against complete abstinence and Stage Blue style emotional repression. All the so-called benefits of nofap are achievable by just fapping moderately. You should fap just as much as you need to fap; not more, not less.

[Tyler Robinson]

@Something Funny I wasn't shaming you. Just letting you know that experience doesn't align with what you're saying. Getting in touch with the body is kinda fine with spiritual retreats, but when it comes to sex, you're a bit ignorant, you don't know much, is it okay to say you don't know much or are you offended by this? 

 

[Tyler Robinson]

@Something Funny Teal Swan does not have much authority when it comes to women. Although I appreciate a lot of what she puts out, but she is like a weird woman with obvious mental illnesses. I don't take her too seriously. 

It's like following Leo for marriage advice. Would be bad idea. 

 

[Hardkill]

On 8/9/2022 at 11:07 AM, Leo Gura said:

It's a silly expectation for her to hold.

You shouldn't quit porn because a girl tells you to.

A guy requires way more sex than a girl. A girl will not understand this. It's like telling your cat to quit scratching the couch.

What she's really feeling is insecurity and a lack of love from you. She has the wrong idea in her head that your porn watching reduces your love for her. Convince her otherwise.

So, it isn't true that women want sex just as much as men if not more?

[Devin]

@Tyler Robinson

I can masturbate easily and I haven't looked at porn in years, and it's a much better and fulfilling experience now.

Also, there are girls that orgasm quicker than me (male). I thought most girls can cum in a few minutes

Edited August 11, 2022 by Devin

[Tyler Robinson]

3 hours ago, Devin said:

@Tyler Robinson

I can masturbate easily and I haven't looked at porn in years, and it's a much better and fulfilling experience now.

Also, there are girls that orgasm quicker than me (male). I thought most girls can cum in a few minutes

Nope. Not my experience. I don't know how you guys manage it but good for you. For me I've always needed imagination. Maybe I'm just not used to something you're saying. 

[Devin]

1 hour ago, Tyler Robinson said:

Nope. Not my experience. I don't know how you guys manage it but good for you. For me I've always needed imagination. Maybe I'm just not used to something you're saying. 

Your sexuality

Edited August 11, 2022 by Devin

[Tyler Robinson]

1 minute ago, Devin said:

your sexuality

My sexuality is just my sexual fetishes and fantasies that is all and I crave dominance in the bed. To each his own, way of fulfilling the selves. 

 

[Devin]

1 minute ago, Tyler Robinson said:

My sexuality is just my sexual fetishes and fantasies that is all and I crave dominance in the bed. To each his own, way of fulfilling the selves. 

 

I don't think that's sexuality at all, that's all ego

[Tyler Robinson]

19 minutes ago, Devin said:

I don't think that's sexuality at all, that's all ego

How is that even remotely associated with ego lol? 

[Devin]

12 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

How is that even remotely associated with ego lol? 

Because you wouldn't have fetishes and fantasies without the outside world

Just look at how you wrote the previous post, you said "my" sexuality, "my" fetishes and fantasies

It's from fear, otherwise they wouldn't be "yours"

Edited August 11, 2022 by Devin