Pork

[at_anchor]

Anthony William writes in his book that the fat takes 12 hours to digest, that it causes sleeping problems and that it makes it difficult for oxygen to travel through the bloodstream.

So is pork a healthy source of fat, calories and protein? What are pros and cons of eating it? 

[undeather]

Most of William's claims are based on bro science or not any evdence at all.
Which doesnt necessarily mean that they are wrong, but that you always have to take them with a grain of salt. 

Pork certainly doenst make it difficult for oxygen to travel through the bloodstream....Maybe the argument he is making is that pork affects arterial endothelial function which could end up reducing oxygen inflow into certain tissues.

Pork is not a healthy source of fat, calories or protein.
Chicken/fish are healthier options.
Plants are (for the most part) the healthiest.

[Danioover9000]

@at_anchor

7 hours ago, at_anchor said:

Anthony William writes in his book that the fat takes 12 hours to digest, that it causes sleeping problems and that it makes it difficult for oxygen to travel through the bloodstream.

So is pork a healthy source of fat, calories and protein? What are pros and cons of eating it? 

   He's mostly using bro science to explain the downsides to pork, so take a pinch of salt, but it does ring true from certain perspectives. I'll explain later.

   Richest source of fat and protein you could ever consume. Pork bellies, and Gammon, ideal for bulking up protein and fats if you are really hitting the gym hard plus labor work. Ideal food if you are into ketogenic diet or carnivore diet In bacon form, I'd cook until it's crispy for thin slices, or if thick slice I'd steam it a little bit, then pan fry it. Those are some of it's pros.

   The cons, it does increase likelihood of heart problems, does make digestion a bit longer, and increases likelihood of cancers related to the heart and stomach/intestines. If you consume too much in one meal setting, can result in cramping, and not cooking pork properly can result in food poisoning.

   Also sluggishness, guaranteed with pork, not just for health/physical reasons, but you are absorbing the essence of the pork, which is naturally a lazy animal itself. The only benefit, is it actually can help you sleep, provided you listen to your body, if it's eaten enough of the pork fat and meat. You will feel lazier than normal, so unless you do want to feel lazier and recover from fat or protein deficiencies, while aiming to gain weight and bulk, then pork is ideal. 

[Yog]

As with most things, don't overeat the same thing and you won't experience many of its cons.

Most cons you get from foods come from that. Overconsume and you'll get heart disease from pork, kidney stones from spinach, or serious intestine problems from potatoes. Most scientific studies are done in isolation. You are only given certain food to eat under certain conditions, for a certain prolonged period of time, they measure stuff around and give you some pros/cons.

The fact is that if you eat foods in moderation, you will be forced to have a diverse food palette. This means nothing is overconsumed, nor is it eaten in an isolated way. I say, research, but don't think much about the cons. Instead, eat in a way that won't lead to their manifestation.

[Yarco]

Fat is fat at a molecular level and how your body handles it and turns it into energy, if we're talking at like a Krebs Cycle turning lipids into ATP bottom level. Shouldn't matter much if you're eating similarly fatty cuts of beef, pork, lamb, or whatever else. Pork actually has more unsaturated fats, so it's higher in Omega 3. But still nowhere as much as fish.

If you want less fat then sub for chicken or turkey. But saturated fat does not clog up your arteries and cause heart attacks like previously thought during the low-fat craze. You can eat a high fat+protein and low carb diet and have high cholesterol and be fine. It's when you add too much carbs/sugar and it causes inflammation in the arteries, basically little micro-cuts where plaque can start accumulating.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Yarco

[at_anchor]

8 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

absorbing the essence of the pork, which is naturally a lazy animal itself

This is interesting. Do carrots also have essence? Would you say that eating a fox makes you more clever and eating a dolphin makes you more playful? 

@Michael569 @undeather I would like to try being a vegan for a year. Do you think that a diet with about a thousand calories and only 40g of protein daily is gonna make me healthier if I don't crash and burn before the year is over? It's a bit extreme. 

[undeather]

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But saturated fat does not clog up your arteries and cause heart attacks like previously thought during the low-fat craze. You can eat a high fat+protein and low carb diet and have high cholesterol and be fine. It's when you add too much carbs/sugar and it causes inflammation in the arteries, basically little micro-cuts where plaque can start accumulating.

 

The evidence regarding ApoB-carrying lipoproteins, cholesterol as a surrogate & cardiovascular disease progression is casually proven, beyond any doubt and by multiple lines of evidence over the last 50 years. It does not matter what youtuber X says or what some maverick doctor writes in his book - the amount of evidence is simply overwhelming. The inflammation hypothesis has, at best, some supportive elements going for it. 

 

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I would like to try being a vegan for a year. Do you think that a diet with about a thousand calories and only 40g of protein daily is gonna make me healthier if I don't crash and burn before the year is over? It's a bit extreme. 

Thousand calories sounds like wayyy too little, even if you want to lose weight. 

Whats your current weight/height? 
Whats your goal with the diet? Weightloss? 

Edited July 28, 2022 by undeather

[King Merk]

I prefer fat from organic grass fed beef.

I’m doing carnivore and consume about a pound and a half of beef per day and about 6-10oz of suet per day.

Whenever I eat pork I notice an inflammatory reaction whereas with the beef there is no such reaction.