The teachings of don Juan and Shamanism

[Happy Lizard]

@Leo Gura

since we have an new section in the forum, I thought i’d ask if you are planning on making a video about shamanism and/or the teachings of Don Juan.

I’m interested because non of my trips I have had have any relation to what the books mentioned, and I initially bought the books following what you wrote in the book description: that you have  validated through your own experiences with psychedelics, that those supernatural events in the book matches your experiments.

the books mentions weird creatures, colorful auras, an egg shaped form that humans take, among other things …

For anyone else who’s read the books : have you had similar trips? Any idea how to interpret it ? Whats your opinion about the validity of these books?

Edited May 8, 2022 by Happy Lizard

[amanen]

If you want to see supernatural events or even magic of any kind you can set your intention to experience some for a psychedelic trip. With a high state of consciousness it is easy for these things to happen.

Personally I have found success with this method, but only when I have had intentions regarding very specifically towards magic and supernatural phenomena. Never otherwise during a trip have I seen anything like that.

I don't mean something like ritual magic or even something like clairvoyance or telepathy, but something more akin to what the indians call siddhis and what is often linked to shamanism.

You can experiment with what you are capable of during a trip if you are interested in this kind of thing.

[Leo Gura]

12 hours ago, Happy Lizard said:

following what you wrote in the book description: that you have  validated through your own experiences with psychedelics, that those supernatural events in the book matches your experiments.

the books mentions weird creatures, colorful auras, an egg shaped form that humans take, among other things …

I never said that.

There is wisdom in the books, but don't take them literally or too seriously. Awakening will blow all that shit out of the water.

Mostly those books should be used as inspiration, not any literal description of reality.

[The Mystical Man]

The Castaneda books are like Star Wars: mostly entertainment, a little bit of wisdom. 

Edited May 9, 2022 by The Mystical Man

[Happy Lizard]

@Leo Gura  you are right, I think I miss interpreted the description, it does say you've found that the spiritual wisdom is dead-on accurate. I took that as some of these experiences where true, but also for its very high rating in the psychedelics section, I though they would be more than novels.

my intuition guided me to believe that you've added them for the wisdom in them that's not very verbal or can't be expressed verbally, in this case I agree that they have profound lessons, some of which I have had delivered to me form my own background without me knowing. 

still I have one more question: since you also have a section for paranormal/super-natural, I don't understand why you include these books if you're approach is very direct and non-dual, is there any benefits in reading these books other than learning new stuff and having a curious/open-mind that you believe necessitate having them on the booklist? 

[Happy Lizard]

3 hours ago, amanen said:

Personally I have found success with this method, but only when I have had intentions regarding very specifically towards magic and supernatural phenomena. Never otherwise during a trip have I seen anything like that.

I don't mean something like ritual magic or even something like clairvoyance or telepathy, but something more akin to what the indians call siddhis and what is often linked to shamanism.

interesting, I haven't had that intent before, I just sorta take the dose and see what it does.

I have read in Ram Dass books he mentions as one of his most shocking acid trips on a high dose that he had manifest things that he though was as real as anything during these trips. 

also Stanislav Grof mentions that he've had a OBE on acid. 

some people claim seen wild shit on acid, I'm not sure if it's the dose their minds or intention as you say. 

[Hello from Russia]

@Leo Gura What would you suggest to do if some of your friends are a bit too open-minded and started taking some of the simillar stuff way too seriously and now it's their leading paradygm on reality?

Ehhrr, social domain is so tricky

[LSD-Rumi]

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura I remember reading the first book and getting very disapointed with the content given that it is on your booklist. I believe you should consider removing it from the booklist. It was full of mumbo-jumpo stuff.

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Hello from Russia said:

@Leo Gura What would you suggest to do if some of your friends are a bit too open-minded and started taking some of the simillar stuff way too seriously and now it's their leading paradygm on reality?

Be grounded in your direct experience.

1 hour ago, LSD-Rumi said:

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura I remember reading the first book and getting very disapointed with the content given that it is on your booklist. I believe you should consider removing it from the booklist. It was full of mumbo-jumpo stuff.

They are great books and I have no reservations about recommending them.

I never said to take them literally. You need to be more intelligent about how you read books.

[Happy Lizard]

On 5/9/2022 at 3:15 PM, Loba said:

I've delt with inorganic beings before and work with them using intent.
They are called archons, or demons and I have one that does my bidding when I need to "take a step back" to retrieve certain information.

could you explain more? do you have a trustworthy source that I can learn about this? 
not sure if I should look into it since your saying this knowledge is for shamans, but I have an interest in understanding things outside of my paradigm.