Why is everybody so convinced of reincarnation

[Gesundheit2]

2 hours ago, Benton said:

Yes you have to become conscious of it. I was simply trying to at least open people to the possibility.

Yeah, but the problem is that there's no realistic way in which you can get everyone to experience the same things you are. Perhaps at best you can get them to open up to the possibility then try and get different results. Then what? Also what's the point?

So, you're conscious of something that other people aren't. And you want them to become conscious of it too, or at least open up to believing in the narrative you believe in. But let's be realistic here, why would I want to share your perception of the world? What's in it for me? All I will get is probably isolation and demonization without any real benefits to make up for that, so why should I? Maybe it can cure your existential loneliness (and maybe it won't), but maybe there are also other ways to cure it that don't involve isolating others from their common life.

Edited March 7, 2022 by Gesundheit2

[Gesundheit2]

2 hours ago, BipolarGrowth said:

I’ve had experiences which point me to prior lifetimes, but even direct experience of such a thing only suggests a possibility. It’s at least as likely that these experiences could simply be the mind feeding itself false information that it wants to believe. 

The thing is that there could be an infinite pool of possible explanations. But without an axiom to anchor our thinking in, all of them would be equally valid and possible, which can become a problem.

The memories could be the person's shadows, or an evil demon imposition, or a fairy angel treat. They could be Dumbledore's manipulation, Snape performing mind penetration, Voldemort's damnation, or just Harry's imagination. Just who knows?!

Edited March 7, 2022 by Gesundheit2

[Grateful Dead]

I'm not claiming that reincarnation and past lives are absolutely true, but after God-realization I got insight into the full history of my soul and it was extremely helpful in a relative way.  It's just as helpful as we learn about human history on this planet etc…

[Julian gabriel]

everything is paradox so the ultimate end has to also be the beginning. 

just like when you get as high as you can go you are also at the bottom

[Inliytened1]

In Truth there is only the dream you as God are dreaming right now.  Thoughts of future lives or you one day being your brother and experiencing life through your brothers eyes, are imagination.   The key here is that there is no objective reality.  God is just what it is.  God doesn't have a book somewhere where he states objectively "this is how i am designing reality.  I'm going to make it like a one player game in which i am then going to take turns experiencing every possible perspective".   You will not find the official "reality playbook" somewhere up in the heavens somewhere.   Reality is just Infinity.  And you are Infinity dreaming.  It's really quite simple.  When you wake up from the dream its gone.    Other beings, creatures, and objects, are you, right now.  They are ABSOLUTELY identical to you.

[machiavelli]

@Inliytened1 But I can show some NDEs where it was shown that some situations which occur in life are predetermined. 

For ex- In one NDE it was shown how you chose a particular event that will happen before you incarnated into the illusion.

How to explain this?

 

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, machiavelli said:

@Inliytened1 But I can show some NDEs where it was shown that some situations which occur in life are predetermined. 

For ex- In one NDE it was shown how you chose a particular event that will happen before you incarnated into the illusion.

How to explain this?

 

stories within this particular dream that you as God are dreaming right now.  Here we stear you towards actual awakening.   That's why i would prefer to rather point you to whats actual, what is actual right now.   Stare at your hand, for example, for 2 hours.  A glimpse of Being may arise, and your consciousness dial may start to go up.  Try to stay in actuality, or the present moment (right now) not stories.   Because that's what you are fundamentally.  Also do self inquiry.  

 

[BipolarGrowth]

16 hours ago, Benton said:

You are not conscious of this right now

Yeah, that’s kind of my point that these things don’t matter as much as people think they do. 

 

14 hours ago, Gesundheit2 said:

The thing is that there could be an infinite pool of possible explanations. But without an axiom to anchor our thinking in, all of them would be equally valid and possible, which can become a problem.

The memories could be the person's shadows, or an evil demon imposition, or a fairy angel treat. They could be Dumbledore's manipulation, Snape performing mind penetration, Voldemort's damnation, or just Harry's imagination. Just who knows?!

Exactly. Once people begin to interpret experiences, there’s a large chance that the interpretation is just a shot in the dark. 

[mojsterr]

To me reincarnation is the only logical thing that CAN be.

Our whole existence, the Universe... is energy flowing in and out of itself for all eternity. Energy can't be destroyed, it always IS. So how could it be that I exist only once in the whole of eternity and never again? It's not logical. I must have been "here" a trillion times before, in whatever shape and form, and by that logic, I will be "here" a trillion times more. It's a ride that never ends. It cannot stop existing. So it must go on forever.

Edited March 8, 2022 by mojsterr