Sex Diary

[Etherial Cat]

10 years is a lot in her context.

Consider that she is as close as you as she is as a 7 year old.

Remember how immature you were at 17.

Don't be that guy who goes for underage girls. It's creepy.

[RendHeaven]

On 8/2/2021 at 2:08 PM, ivankiss said:

Can't allow myself to be this desperate for pussy anymore. I need some time on my own.

 

[ivankiss]

Yeah, I hear ya guys...

You're right...

[Etherial Cat]

Maybe you'll bump into her again later in life. 

You'll meet another girl soon enough. Keep an abundance mindset! 

[Roy]

4 hours ago, ivankiss said:

Wait, I'm not entirely sure if I understand your message.. could you dumb it down? 

The fact you're able to resist having sex with someone who is questionably/considerably underage for you because it feels wrong makes you a rare man, because 9/10 guys would fuck her.

So just don't do it, find someone else.

[ivankiss]

@Etherial Cat @Roy You speak the true-true.

It's hard AF, because I'm still kinda getting used to  receiving this much attention from girls, and also this whole pick up game... So yeah, of course it's hard.

And she's not making it any easier. She's coming on strong. Telling me all the reasons why I should not worry and it's all cool.

Not to mention that she's absolutely bonkers hot.

Edited August 4, 2021 by ivankiss

[Roy]

Do not give in! Be strong, like Sir Galahad!

 

[Etherial Cat]

1 hour ago, ivankiss said:

@Etherial Cat @Roy You speak the true-true.

It's hard AF, because I'm still kinda getting used to  receiving this much attention from girls, and also this whole pick up game... So yeah, of course it's hard.

And she's not making it any easier. She's coming on strong. Telling me all the reasons why I should not worry and it's all cool.

Not to mention that she's absolutely bonkers hot.

She's going to be trouble to handle. That's how teenagers are.

One of my ex started dating a 16 year old girl at the age of 27. Everyone was shocked and told him it was a bad idea but he convinced himself it was ok. The girl was insisting she was mature enough and liked older guys, he said .

To make a long story short - few months after that, she made a plan with some of her friends to trick him after she got upset about something. Apparently, she was a huge fan of Gossip Girl and took revenge IRL like the fictional characters did it in the show. 

And she made a whole fuss about it on social media to humiliate him further.

 

Edited August 4, 2021 by Etherial Cat

[soos_mite_ah]

1 hour ago, ivankiss said:

And she's not making it any easier. She's coming on strong. Telling me all the reasons why I should not worry and it's all cool.

Not to mention that she's absolutely bonkers hot.

She's a child. She doesnt know better. We all thought we were mature at 17 or so when that isnt the case. In 10 years, shes going to look back at this situation and cringe. 

You're the adult, it's up to you to be responsible and know better and shut this shit down and make that clear as day. 

Also idk about how things are there, but shouldnt she at her age be in high school rn..... 

[soos_mite_ah]

1 hour ago, Roy said:

The fact you're able to resist having sex with someone who is questionably/considerably underage for you because it feels wrong makes you a rare man, because 9/10 guys would fuck her.

Bruh... the bar is on the floor. 

[ivankiss]

It's all cool guys. 

I already approached another girl 

[ivankiss]

Samo napred

[Roy]

44 minutes ago, soos_mite_ah said:

Bruh... the bar is on the floor. 

Yep! And most men won't jump over it.

[Etherial Cat]

1 hour ago, soos_mite_ah said:

Bruh... the bar is on the floor. 

 

29 minutes ago, Roy said:

Yep! And most men won't jump over it.

Actually, you've got a fair deal of men who sees this type of age gap as a deal breaker. The decent ones, nearly all.

And that's quite a pity, because when you see a teenager with a man far too old, you know that this guy is most likely unhealthy and morally bankrupt.

In retrospective, 95% of the older men who approached me from the age of 13 to 25 were creeps. And they almost behave the same way as pervert luring children with candies, except that they did it with grown up tools. 

And a lot of girls change their mind on whether this was appropriate or not as they grow older. I know a few of them.

[ivankiss]

Do you guys think 18/19 is still too young for a 26yr old dude?

Talking about sex, only. Not a relationship.

If yes; then I guess I'm a bit pedo lol. Guilty of having sex with two 19 year olds, recently.

I know this is a pretty delicate topic, but whatever, I'll be direct.

I don't know where do you guys live, but here, girls that age are mostly hooking up with guys in their mid twenties. Or older. Sometimes, much older.

My thoughts are; either she has sex with me and I make her feel like she's in heaven, treat her with respect and kindness... Or I reject her, she goes and finds another older dude and fucks him. And he might not treat her as I would. He could easily abuse her, hurt her, etc. In fact; mostly likely - that's what would happen.

So yeah, 17 is too young... But where do you draw the line, and why?

[soos_mite_ah]

19 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

Actually, you've got a fair deal of men who sees this type of age gap as a deal breaker. The decent ones, nearly all.

I agree with this. Maybe I'm lucky but every time I was approached by a man who was significantly older, when I told them my age, they backed the fuck up and got out of there. As they should. But yeah, there are plenty of shady guys out there and you can't really blame a lot of women for feeling like they have to be on guard. 

19 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

And a lot of girls change their mind on whether this was appropriate or not as they grow older. I know a few of them.

I had a couple friends who I grew up with in high school when we were 16/17 ish and they would hang out with some guys who were in their early 20s. And now that we are approaching that same age, we realize how weird that is and how it wasn't appropriate. Because we can't imagine doing something similar at our age. 

[soos_mite_ah]

1 minute ago, ivankiss said:

Do you guys think 18/19 is still too young for a 26yr old dude?

Talking about sex, only. Not a relationship.

If yes; then I guess I'm a bit pedo lol. Guilty of having sex with two 19 year olds, recently.

I know this is a pretty delicate topic, but whatever, I'll be direct.

I don't know where do you guys live, but here, girls that age are mostly hooking up with guys in their mid twenties. Or older. Sometimes, much older.

My thoughts are; either she has sex with me and I make her feel like she's in heaven, treat her with respect and kindness... Or I reject her, she goes and finds another older dude and fucks him. And he might not treat her as I would. He could easily abuse her, hurt her, etc. In fact; mostly likely - that's what would happen.

So yeah, 17 is too young... But where do you draw the line, and why?

Since I'm not in my mid 20s, I don't know what's normal at age. I'd imagine if I were 26, anything younger than 22 might be a little weird. 18/19 is still basically a teenager and you're not really an adult at that age emotionally/mentally even though you're legally considered one. 

And idk where you live and I don't think it has to do with location rather it has more to do with the specific social circle you're in. I know that there are women my age (and younger) having sex with guys who are much older. Like I know that's a thing and I'm 1000% sure it happens in my area. But as far as my social circle goes, there isn't anyone like that. 

Also, I don't think it has to do with how you treat them rather it's the power dynamic that is just inherently sketchy. Sure you might not be treating them as bad but it's still weird. 

That said, I don't think it's weird to be attracted to someone physically if they're over 16/17 since a lot of people are physically developed at that age and as a result they aren't really that distinguishable (physically speaking) than people in their 20s. Like I'm pretty sure I've looked more or less the same since that age. But emotionally/psychologically speaking, to me they stick out like a sore thumb because one conversation with them, you will more or less get an idea of how old they are and what stage of life they are. And for me, that's enough to feel repulsed, idk about other people though.  

[Etherial Cat]

14 minutes ago, soos_mite_ah said:

I agree with this. Maybe I'm lucky but every time I was approached by a man who was significantly older, when I told them my age, they backed the fuck up and got out of there. As they should. But yeah, there are plenty of shady guys out there and you can't really blame a lot of women for feeling like they have to be on guard. 

Yeah. And as a girl who've been through that, you get a clear picture of what type of men are left over. And when a guy enter that glorious club, you can't help but assimilate him the whole pool and be like "ew", "you're that type of guy?  

16 minutes ago, soos_mite_ah said:

I had a couple friends who I grew up with in high school when we were 16/17 ish and they would hang out with some guys who were in their early 20s. And now that we are approaching that same age, we realize how weird that is and how it wasn't appropriate. Because we can't imagine doing something similar at our age. 

Yes, exactly. And it gets more disturbing whenever you see age gap and power dynamics far wider as you get older. 

The thing is, in 99% of the cases, there is no reason for them to date so young but for a wish for control and sex.

At my age, thinking of having sex with a 20 year old guy makes me uneasy.

Physically, you can see that they aren't done growing up and it reflect well their psyche and overall development level. What kicks in is a desire to protect them and help them grow.  So thinking of a full grown adult using them as sex objects feels really gross.

[Etherial Cat]

46 minutes ago, soos_mite_ah said:

Since I'm not in my mid 20s, I don't know what's normal at age. I'd imagine if I were 26, anything younger than 22 might be a little weird. 18/19 is still basically a teenager and you're not really an adult at that age emotionally/mentally even though you're legally considered one. 

And idk where you live and I don't think it has to do with location rather it has more to do with the specific social circle you're in. I know that there are women my age (and younger) having sex with guys who are much older. Like I know that's a thing and I'm 1000% sure it happens in my area. But as far as my social circle goes, there isn't anyone like that. 

Also, I don't think it has to do with how you treat them rather it's the power dynamic that is just inherently sketchy. Sure you might not be treating them as bad but it's still weird. 

That said, I don't think it's weird to be attracted to someone physically if they're over 16/17 since a lot of people are physically developed at that age and as a result they aren't really that distinguishable (physically speaking) than people in their 20s. Like I'm pretty sure I've looked more or less the same since that age. But emotionally/psychologically speaking, to me they stick out like a sore thumb because one conversation with them, you will more or less get an idea of how old they are and what stage of life they are. And for me, that's enough to feel repulsed, idk about other people though.  

Yeah, absolutely.

59 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Do you guys think 18/19 is still too young for a 26yr old dude?

Talking about sex, only. Not a relationship.

If yes; then I guess I'm a bit pedo lol. Guilty of having sex with two 19 year olds, recently.

I know this is a pretty delicate topic, but whatever, I'll be direct.

I don't know where do you guys live, but here, girls that age are mostly hooking up with guys in their mid twenties. Or older. Sometimes, much older.

My thoughts are; either she has sex with me and I make her feel like she's in heaven, treat her with respect and kindness... Or I reject her, she goes and finds another older dude and fucks him. And he might not treat her as I would. He could easily abuse her, hurt her, etc. In fact; mostly likely - that's what would happen.

So yeah, 17 is too young... But where do you draw the line, and why?

I guess it depends on countries and cultural norms as you said. 

Where I am located it would not be seen so well. Usually, at 19 you're graduating highschool, so that's still very young. And people tend to stay amongst their age group when it comes to dating.  Also, you'll get mocked if you date someone seen as "old" by your peers. 

Personally, I draw the line wherever I don't get any doubts about the morality of something. If I have a doubt, I'll pass my turn. What is reassuring is that they aren't falling into a bad guy with you. So that's very fortunate. But you're the exception, not the standard.

Around 26, I don't recall factually resonating much with people under 24, nor above let's say 29. But I do think that until 22 it's rather fair. What is often done to calculate whether something is appropriate or not is to calculate half your age + 7. So if you're 26, you shouldn't date below 20.  Sounds about fair to me.  

Edited August 4, 2021 by Etherial Cat

[ivankiss]

@Etherial Cat I hear ya.

But here's the thing... if I do get an opportunity with a 19 or even 18yr old, I'll probably do it. At least in this phase of my life... I can see how long term that could be an issue... but I think I've got nothing to fear in a few months of adventures. If there's anyone who can regret anything down the line here, it's me. 

Another way to look at it.. if we look weird or inappropriate side by side, it's probably really inappropriate. But if we look like we could easily be in the same age group, I'd say it's not that weird, after all.

Like, my mother's boss is over 60 and he's dating a 24 year old. I find that far more disgusting and inappropriate than my case.

I also emphatize with any of your bad or traumatic experiences that you girls had in your teenage years... but that, at the end of the day, has nothing to do with me and my ways.

Would I consider a relationship with a girl that age? Absolutely not. I would not consider a relationship with most girls, at this point.

But would I have some casual fun time with them? Most likely, yup. Unless it's a special case and there's clearly something very wrong with how the girl is thinking.

Most of these younger girls just want a cool experience. A guy who knows how to make them feel what they fantasize about. That's all.

Some are looking for their daddies, too... But that's a whole new level of fucked up.