Can the present moment really be described using language?

[Holygrail]

I feel like it just "is" and even calling it "isness" is not the same thing as the actual thing. Even calling it things such as awareness, eternity, god, nothingness, whatever just doesn't really do it justice since it's not the actual thing itself, whatever that thing might be.

Edited May 10, 2021 by Holygrail

[karkaore]

What is language?

[Holygrail]

32 minutes ago, karkaore said:

What is language?

really good thing to contemplate about. but for now, its a survival technology which arbitrarily creates boundaries within reality and only make meaning relative to other boundaries. But fundamentally, all these boundaries are interconnected and one, and held within the incommunicable mystery of experience or awareness.

[Tim R]

@Holygrail 

1 hour ago, Holygrail said:

I feel like it just "is" and even calling it "isness" is not the same thing as the actual thing. Even calling it things such as awareness, eternity, god, nothingness, whatever just doesn't really do it justice since it's not the actual thing itself, whatever that thing might be.

Great, you're going in the right direction. Notice, that even to call there anything "it" or "the actual thing" is the same as using any other words. 

 

 

37 minutes ago, karkaore said:

What is language?

@karkaore The answer to that question can't be understood by using language itself

[karkaore]

We can not talk God. We cannot think God.

You are looking at the screen, seeing hieroglyphs. Your mind makes sense of these hieroglyphs by attaching meaning to them. It's a social construct.

We can't use language to deconsturct language, but we can use language to see the limitations of it.

We can be God. We can experience God.

[seeking_brilliance]

1 hour ago, karkaore said:

What is language?

I am (not). ?

[Consilience]

Considering language is a function of time, in other words language requires the existence of time to operate, technically no. However, some writers are very skilled and can do a great job of pointing to what the is-ness of the present moment.

[seeking_brilliance]

@Consilience @Consilience true, much of great writing is about what's not said, anyway

[RendHeaven]

"Can the present moment really be described using language?"

Of course it can be described

[The0Self]

No

Any description is also what is. Whatever happens is just what is already. So nothing ever really happens.