Ground your work in direct experience

[Someone here]

Me first lol.. 

Just a quick message for Truth seekers.....

This path is about Truth. If what you have is not the truth.. It's important to let it go. Why hold on to that which is ultimately not true?

In order to do that.. you have to investigate honestly your ideas. Truth is not a belief.. Idea.. Concept.. Ideology etc. Truth is simply that which is found and /or alingned with direct experience.

I see a lot of bullshit on this forum.. People talking about stuff they have no experience of whatsoever (past lives.. Reincarnation.. miracles of Jesus etc) ...and it makes me wonder what's the reason for falling for bullshit?? Why are we not immune to nonsense??

It's important to learn epistemology. How do you know something? And is certain knowledge of the world even possible? Are good questions to contemplate. 

Yes it is possible to have certain knowledge. And you will find no certain source of certain knowledge other than direct experience. 

Please ground your work in direct experience and stop repeating stuff you heard 'others ' talk about. 

Peace 

Edited March 27, 2021 by Someone here

[Javfly33]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

. Truth is not a belief.. Idea.. Concept.. Ideology etc. Truth is simply that which is found and /or alingned with direct experience.

 

 

You think there's Truth over here, and that which is going to be found or is aligned with over there.

Non duality Not found 404 ☹️

[Someone here]

@Javfly33 is nonduality Truth? Is nonduality itself an experience? Or a belief? Or idea? What if nonduality is not the truth? What if everything you ever been told is a lie? Take responsibility for finding truth. How do you know what is true? Who told you? How can you trust anyone whatsoever including me right now? 

Edited March 27, 2021 by Someone here

[Javfly33]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

@Javfly33 is nonduality Truth? Is nonduality itself an experience? Or a belief? Or idea? What if nonduality is not the truth? What if everything you ever been told is a lie? Take responsibility for finding truth. How do you what is true? Who told you? How can you trust anyone whatsoever including me right now? 

Non duality is definitely not the truth. It's a model to understand the interconnectedness of reality.

But yeah, it could be flawed. In a lot of ways .

The truth can't be a model or theory or ideology as you said. 

 

[Someone here]

12 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Non duality is definitely not the truth. It's a model to understand the interconnectedness of reality.

But yeah, it could be flawed. In a lot of ways .

The truth can't be a model or theory or ideology as you said. 

 

A model or a theory could be flawed because it's conceptual in nature.  Actual Truth cannot be flawed because it's not a concept to begin with. 

[Someone here]

@Loba ey buddy why toxic? U mad? 

[Someone here]

@Loba

Aren't you the one who just spam people's journals and PMs with this sort of silly personal judgment and getting toxic in analyzing their personalities when you don't even know them???  Nah hard to take you seriously sorry.

Next! 

[Barbara]

@Loba That's some over-assuming. I don't think the issue is Someone here or anybody else. What makes us angry in others most of the time is a reflection of our own bs that we feel shame for.

 

Edited March 27, 2021 by Barbara

[Barbara]

@Loba That's literally non of your business. If it annoys you so much go do something else... But know others are not the problem. No one has the power to make you angry. Take 100% responsibility for what you're feeling here. 

4 minutes ago, Loba said:

I see that he likes to do exactly what he can't handle.  Coward.

Insulting is not cool. It's against the guidelines even. Show some respect or leave.

[Someone here]

@Loba @Loba

My love.. Just gtfo. 

[Barbara]

@allislove Could you step in?

[Barbara]

52 minutes ago, Loba said:

Have you ever thought of letting go of your need to control another persons spiritual experience?  I mean, considering you aren't even a happy person, that you're someone who claims to, at the end of the day just be a coward that is full of fear - what do you even know?
You're a closed minded person, pretending to have truth.  There are so many facets to it, and all of it comes from a person's own introspection into themselves.  When you decide for another person when they are honest or not, you take away that person's ability to decide for themselves, to find out, to grow.  It then is no longer about them, but your silly little need to control what you view as truth, instead of doing more research or trying to understand another person who, at the end of the day, has every right to introspect the way that they think is best.

One thing I am learning about people here who have chronic issues with controlling others is that they don't really care about another person growing, it is about making them conform to what you think is right.  You're full of it, pretending that everyone else is, because you're looking outwards at what other people are doing on the forum.  That's harmful, and it ultimately makes you kind a ....nyeh... person underneath it all.

Focus on yourself, quit worrying about what other people are doing here, you are not here to "show them the way" or, honestly, even decide what is true or not.  I bet, at the end of the day, you are probably just disappointed that you can't verify such things for yourself, you're closed off to it, an entire world that other people get to be privy to.

All of this stuff COMES from direct experience.  You are someone who is still trying to come to terms with the fear of death, and I remember you making a post in the past on wanting to have such experiences and being unable to.

I dislike this form of dishonesty with people and I do keep track of the underlying reasons for these sorts of displays of "generosity" when it comes to showing other people how they should be living their lives.

You sound like someone who is secretly envious.  "I can't do it, so you are lying".  Psssh.  Whatever.

47 minutes ago, Loba said:

@Someone here You're toxic.  You actually, genuinely are.  Don't do that.  I don't like that.  Doesn't feel good when it comes back to you, does it?  You're arrogant. 

12 minutes ago, Loba said:

@Someone here I was right about you dude.  Why do you spend so much time here trying to act like you know better than other people?

That is the actual issue, not what you think is bullshit.

Do you know this?  Do you know that acting like this is harmful for other people here who are just trying to do their own thing?  Are you going to do anything about it or keep it up?  I wanna know.  Since you felt the need to marginalize people such as myself, what are you going to do to improve your own style of communication here? 

Or are you going to gaslight me because I was accurate and that bothered you?

p.s. - stop being full of shit.

You might have disliked the tone, the implications, the person, the post, you name it. That's not the issue, but the hateful way you approached, insulting and disrespecting Someone here. That is not allowed here. Don't make this personal.

[allislove]

Be kind here. 

User @Loba received a warning.

[James123]

 

@Someone here You're toxic.  You actually, genuinely are.  Don't do that.  I don't like that.  Doesn't feel good when it comes back to you, does it?  You're arrogant. 

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

@Loba @Loba

My love.. Just gtfo. 

Suffering. Ego is like an mirror, whatever is inside, show it to outside. Or whatever you say to so called others, you are actually telling yourself. 

 @Someone here @Javfly33 Truth is just direct “being”. Any thoughts, ideology or belief is “something”, when there is “nothing”, it is “being”.

 

Edited March 27, 2021 by James123

[allislove]

6 minutes ago, James123 said:

Suffering. Ego is like an mirror, whatever is inside, show it to outside.

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[roopepa]

Again and again, feeling like shit, trying to ground yourself in some thing, whatever it is... In this case, "direct experience".

Recognize you are trying to ground yourself in thought of "direct experience". (You are a truth seeker, this work you are doing is about truth, certain knowledge is in "direct experience"... others are doing it wrong)

A lot of thoughts about direct experience, rather than directly experiencing...

As you are reading this, go for directly experiencing, rather than thinking about it. "Is roopepa right? What the fuck is he talking about? He don't understand direct experience..." etc.

Go for feeling. Nothing to think about it, just feel.

[Javfly33]

32 minutes ago, James123 said:

Or whatever you say to so called others, you are actually telling yourself. 

 @Someone here @Javfly33 

32 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

 

@James123 literally ??

32 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

@Javfly33

 

[Javfly33]

@Loba yeah you are the old user Keyhole. Why you changed your username?

[James123]

@Javfly33 @allislove ??

[Someone here]

@Loba why all this rage? What's your issue? Are you going through tough times emotionally?