describe your PERFECT woman

[Galyna]

23 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But that's NOT what women are attracted to.

I have never been attracted to “that guy” you describe ? maybe read too much of Osho, lol

how can you build a deep intimacy with Alfa or macho? He is not going to be there for you to dive deep, reflect, mirror. 
I can’t understand why women would spend time on this, I would rather be alone. 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Galyna

[Preety_India]

@Galyna

Actually to be very honest, I'm very very attracted to Alpha and Macho. 

 

Is it only me or? 

 

❤️ My bf is alpha and macho.. I mean most of the exes also have been. 

 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Preety_India

[Leo Gura]

It's not as simple as alpha or macho. There's more nuance to it.

[Galyna]

@Preety_India mine is very “green”...

With Alfa at first it feels great, sex and his behavior, but then you deal with his selfishness... oh boy,  you forget about all the sexy male things and his tricks, and start to crave for the emotional part. It kills all the intimacy. 
No money, body, muscles, or your social status are going to impress me. It is all a sham....

 

[Preety_India]

@Galyna

Actually to me alpha is not money or social status or body. 

Maybe our definition of Alpha are different. 

To me alpha is someone who is 

Strong. 

Determined 

Brave 

Integrity and morality 

Dignity and respect 

Has his head on his shoulders 

Remains true to his principles 

Honest and never lying 

Never acting like a coward 

Stands for truth 

Not hateful but affectionate and loving 

Hearty and Generous.. Not jealous and insecure 

Persistent and Resilient. 

 

To me status and money never mattered at all. Because I mostly dated broke guys, .. (I know right), but some of them were very genuine and a strong sense of self. 

I have never dated a guy who is changing color like a chameleon, too submissive, untrustworthy, slavish or zero self respect.. I don't like such men. 

So my definition of alpha is a little different. 

Also body wise I would prefer a guy who is a bit Macho. It turns me on. But it's okay, it's not a necessary thing because I can always compromise on that part. 

But his moral standards need to be high. I can't deal with a guy who can switch his moral principles for a dime.nope.

Edited July 18, 2020 by Preety_India

[Galyna]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's not as simple as alpha or macho. There's more nuance to it.

Oh, I know exactly what you are talking about. 

The most attractive male, imo, is a wise, authentic man, who does not carry any authority, who does not give a crap about status, money, opinion, social games....empathetic, intuitive, confident but humble at the same time. In one word mature being, which is so rear nowadays.

When any game is involved, like proving something, gaining something, creating this unshakable image, this is so childish. I can sense it 100 miles away....interest is lost. If you need to prove me something, it means you are lacking love on your part. If you are emotionally distant means you can not develop any intimacy, some types of weakness, right? Not strength for sure. If you can not show/express your true feelings/opinions what does it tell me? 

Every great thing in life is pretty simple. No need to complicate it with all this pick up mastery. Just be your authentic yourself. 

 

[Galyna]

@Preety_India I agree with everything you are saying, but when man reaches some social status and on top of it he is handsome, oh boy, forget about these qualities you have mentioned. Ego would be so inflated, it is almost impossible to maintain a good spirit.  You will be tempted in one way or the other, plus if you are the alfa, and have all those possibilities to sleep with all the women you want, you start to depreciate any relations you have, because you would know that you can have another and another and another. 

Money is a great indicator of your mental growth. 

But yeah, when I speak about Alfa, I do refer to "yellow" not "green" male.

If you are low on the social strata you can not be Alfa by default.

Edited July 18, 2020 by Galyna

[billiesimon]

6 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

@Galyna

Actually to me alpha is not money or social status or body. 

Maybe our definition of Alpha are different. 

To me alpha is someone who is 

Strong. 

Determined 

Brave 

Integrity and morality 

Dignity and respect 

Has his head on his shoulders 

Remains true to his principles 

Honest and never lying 

Never acting like a coward 

Stands for truth 

Not hateful but affectionate and loving 

Hearty and Generous.. Not jealous and insecure 

Persistent and Resilient. 

In the beginning I thought you meant the criminal ignorant type of macho ?

The description you gave is actually a very stage green macho. It's an empowered version of the classic stage green man.

I actually like it, as the very spiritual guy I am ??

 

 

But

Awakened men are the absolute best ?️?

[Preety_India]

@Galyna

I get your point. 

Now I'm getting a bit worried.. 

Am I the only one who doesn't care about money or social status lol. Am I abnormal? 

I always believed that I was a hippie and I never cared about money or social status. 

But people around me always told me that money is important.. 

But I never actually looked at a guy like that. I never checked how much money they made or what status they had. I only cared if they were authentic and great personality. 

Of course later they didn't turn out like that because their qualities were a fake show to impress me 

But is it wrong to not bother about how much money a guy makes or his success. Because I don't like to judge people on that parameter. 

I'm just curious 

 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Preety_India

[Preety_India]

6 minutes ago, billiesimon said:

The description you gave is actually a very stage green macho

My current boyfriend is a stage green macho. 

The previous one that I dumped was a bit Blue macho. 

I prefer the current one. 

 

[Galyna]

3 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

But is it wrong to not bother about how much money a guy makes or his success. Because I don't like to judge people on that parameter. 

Of course not, especially when you are young, you can achieve so many things together. It's fun...

I would rather start my life with a poor kind man than with a rich jerk. 

When I met my spouse, he was an ordinary guy, but I saw his potential and started to inspire him. I am his muse. He grew so much with me. He is not the same person I met before...

You are in the same boat of life, his success is your success and vice versa. 

I think us women should inspire men! Preferably sexually and emotionally. We should give them this energy to go and conquer the world. Then you become a true woman and he becomes a true man. 

The problem starts when he does not want to conquer the world for me....that would be a red flag. But if the person have goals, motivations, desires, what else you need? Building a life together when young is a great thing. 

 

[billiesimon]

Dating is strictly related to the level of consciousness and the level of shadow work done. 

At low levels girls are attracted to money, status and power because they are ego driven, which is survival. 

The more developed a girl, the more she seeks emotional intimacy and authentic sex and vibing ?

Girls who act bitchy and arrogant are horrible girlfriends and generally get abusive guys. Survival. 

 

A girlfriend I had in the past was still damaged by her abusive exes but she was absolutely in love with me when I met her, because I was both determined and empathetic. 

She even told me that she's never been so in love, and after our relationship she never dated assholes again. 

It's just low consciousness and absence of healing. 

Give love to the girls ???

[Preety_India]

@Galyna  you are so so right. You are my Queen. 

I completely agree with you especially this part. 

 

The problem starts when he does not want to conquer the world for me....that would be a red flag. But if the person have goals, motivations, desires, what else you need? Building a life together when young is a great thing. 

I have always believed that real women can inspire real men and real men can inspire real men. 

Cheers. 

 

[Preety_India]

@Moon that's a great point.. Me too. 

 

[Galyna]

15 minutes ago, Moon said:

I don't care how much money he money he makes *as long as* he can provide for his own basic needs- food, shelter etc

Actually when man is in love and taken cared properly: nice food, good sex and his favorite games with friends??. He would want to impress you and would try his best to provide for you.  
guys are pretty simple to maintain ?? 

they just hate drama ?

Edited July 18, 2020 by Galyna

[Galyna]

@Preety_India you are super lovely and sweet. Hugs. ????

[Preety_India]

22 minutes ago, billiesimon said:

Girls who act bitchy and arrogant are horrible girlfriends and generally get abusive guys. Survival. 

This statement is a huge myth and I have read this too many times.. 

I have observed such stereotypes where the woman is in love with an abusive guy because she thinks she can't deserve better or she is emotionally damaged or she is doing it for survival. 

I have always been with abusive men in the past . But I wasn't with them because I was a horrible girlfriend or survival.. I was with them because I was too young to understand how men were. I didn't know about relationships because they were my first relationships and as a newbie I couldn't be expected to know everything about the world with little experience. 

I had no idea a few years ago that some men were manipulative.. The word manipulation didn't even exist in my mental vocabulary. I was just in college. 

Therefore my earliest relationships were with abusive men without realizing that they are abusive. It was just total trust and attraction based.. 

I was also much more forgiving back then because I always believed some bookish principles and I never questioned anything much. I was too trusting and loved the men very much because even for a minute I never thought they were manipulative. 

I was fresh in the dating world and I was more than thrilled to be in a relationship, I was too dreamy, not a horrible girlfriend, but a naive dreamy girlfriend. I believed novels. 

It took some harsh brush with reality and seeing the manipulation first hand that I realized that I was being used and abused. Then I immediately left those men. 

So it's a myth to assume that a woman is in an abusive relationship because she must be a horrible person herself 

It's often because she is trusting, forgiving and loving and wants to give chances to the man and hopes he will change. 

Also for many women, their first relationship matters a lot. They are very dreamy about it. They don't want their first loves to turn to ash. They don't want their very first dreams shattered. So they cling to this ideal that somehow they will change their man and he will magically turn from the Frog Prince into the Prince Charming. 

Eventually these women realize that they are chasing a pipe dream and after much suffering they leave the guy, the way I did. 

These women are awesome, yet they are simply caught in such relationships and their love makes them stay longer. But of course they leave at last. 

A lot of the time the media tries to portray the woman in an abusive relationship as someone who is committing a crime or an enabler of abuse. It's not true. They are just not very experienced to understand the nature of things or are too emotional and forgiving. 

 

 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Preety_India

[Preety_India]

10 minutes ago, Galyna said:

@Preety_India you are super lovely and sweet. Hugs. ????

Hugs hun 

[billiesimon]

6 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

 

So it's a myth to assume that a woman is in an abusive relationship because she must be a horrible person herself 

I never said that 

I said the reverse. Negative and arrogant women tend to always get abusive relationships. 

I never said that girls in abusive relationships are all arrogant. I was just talking about the arrogant/bitchy type. 

 

Of course nice girls get bad/abusive relationships when they are inexperienced. It's very common. I was just saying that the bitchy type can't get an actualized and positive man. 

??

[Preety_India]

10 minutes ago, billiesimon said:

I was just saying that the bitchy type can't get an actualized and positive man. 

??

Absolutely agree ??