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Why did Ramana Maharshi say that our lives are predetermined?

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To help you realize there is a higher power that functions through beings in a way that is beyond your personal will.

But at the same time, there is your experience of personal will also.

He knew you couldn't really speak about this, in a fundamentally true way, and said so himself.

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Maybe because everything already exist every possibility of you in every scenario is already there. And i guess u jump through realities according to your emotions,feelings and thoughts.


I will be waiting here, For your silence to break, For your soul to shake,              For your love to wake! Rumi

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“Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control.
 It is determined for the insect, as well as for the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust,
 we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper.”

- Albert Einstein


https://youtu.be/Ts_WDlgNMoo

Die before you die ^

 

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Because, from the Turiyatita state, every other possible timeline is dissolved and only the Divine Will arises. Other timelines arise out of free will, other timelines are maya.

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1 hour ago, Serotoninluv said:

@Schahin Why don’t you ask him? 😉 

I think he died. 

Basically I asked this question here because I wonder how he said such a thing but the discussion about nonduality here are more that it is not determined and god creates it every moment and the future is not certain yet

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@Schahin I know. I gave a nondualish answer. . . Hmmm. . . something nondualish sounds nice for Halloween. . . 

Below is a summary of Maharshi’s talks on feee will and determinism. This may help to explain what he meant.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/selfrealization.home.blog/2018/10/12/ramana-maharshi-on-free-will-and-destiny/amp/

Maharshi seems to acknowledge human constructs and points to the transcendence of those constructs in the realization of “I”. 

To me, it seems a nondual perspective is Now. Appearances occur Now, including thoughts of past and future. A singular one happening. A dualistic perspective would focus on movements through time, causes and effects, subjects and objects. Yet ultimately, nondual vs dual is itself a duality that also collapses. 

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I wouldn’t get hung up on the destiny/fate component, rather I’d focus on the lack of free will part, the absence of control/non-doership and the implications it has both practically and philosophically. Obviously the ego doesn’t like to hear that it’s not in control, but upon further examination it shows itself to be liberating. It renders every being innocent, and gives freedom from regrets and wishing things were different than they are.

It’s way more than a philosophical idea though. As you let God take over the steering wheel, you’ll find She is in fact a damn good driver. I’ve found that the more you surrender and align yourself with Truth, the more serendipitous events you’ll encounter along the way.


https://youtu.be/Ts_WDlgNMoo

Die before you die ^

 

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Why are everyone so islamic? Haha 

I had this with @khalifa sometime ago. 

On Free Will & Divine Determining

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This is from "The Words" by Said Nursi. It is quite a famous book. The first part of his Quranic commentary series. 

There are fourteen or twelve books in total if i'm not mistaken. 

Risale-i Nūr Collection. 

 

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