What are the benefits of ceasing to watch porn?

[Shin]

5 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

 I think it's possible that I go all out on my life purpose and forget about sex for the rest of my life.

No that's suppression, at some point you will have to interact with the opposite sex and that suppression will be an hindrance for your purpose to go higher.

[CreamCat]

9 minutes ago, Shin said:

suppression will be an hindrance for your purpose to go higher.

I do not see how this can be true. Unless you have examples, I'm going to forget about it.

Plus, I don't know whether it's actually suppression. I don't suppress sex on purpose.

I'm not going to refuse sex when the opportunity arises, but I'm not going to proactively seek it, either.

I'm just not inspired with regard to sex, dating, and marriage. When you are uninspired, sexual desire is not enough to drive you toward exerting tremendous efforts to have sex with hot women. I'm far behind the curve. It's probably going to take a lot of efforts just to get started.

Edited June 25, 2019 by CreamCat

[Shin]

4 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

I do not see how this can be true. Unless you have examples, I'm going to forget about it.

Plus, I don't know whether it's actually suppression. I don't suppress sex on purpose.

I'm not going to refuse sex when the opportunity arises, but I'm not going to proactively seek it, either.

I'm just not inspired with regard to sex, dating, and marriage.

Simple example would be if you have to interact with a woman which is a business partner.

If you don't have your sex and intimate life in check emotionally wise, then you won't be able to interact with that women at your utmost performance,
Meaning that you will be more shy/less assertive than you should be.

[CreamCat]

Just now, Shin said:

Simple example would be if you have to interact with a woman which is a business partner.

If you don't have your sex and intimate life in check emotionally wise, then you won't be able to interact with that women at your utmost performance,
Meaning that you will be more shy/less assertive than you should be.

If I view that woman as a potential sexual partner, then I may act awkwardly.

If I view her as a business partner, I can do fine.

Actually, I've interacted with women more naturally after desire to actually have sex vaporized.

[Shin]

1 minute ago, CreamCat said:

If I view that woman as a potential sexual partner, then I may act awkwardly.

If I view her as a business partner, I can do fine.

Actually, I've interacted with women more naturally after desire to actually have sex vaporized.

That's not what's gonna happen.

You will see her first and foremost as a potential sexual partner, that you can't act on because you don't have the skill and didn't meet those needs.
Which will screw up the business partnership in some ways, or she will chose someone else, or you won't have the best deal possible.

Needs that you don't met are always in your subconscious mind ready to burst.

Edited June 25, 2019 by Shin

[CreamCat]

3 minutes ago, Shin said:

You will see her first and foremost as a potential sexual partner, that you can't act on because you don't have the skill and didn't meet those needs.

That's an unchecked assumption. That might be true for you. You don't know that for everyone.

99% of women I encounter look just plain to me, and my business model requires discipline a lot more than interpersonal skills. Even if there is a business partner, business will be conducted online without seeing face most of the time.

It's just not going to be important enough as a factor to consider.

Edited June 25, 2019 by CreamCat

[Natasha]

9 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

exerting tremendous efforts to have sex with hot women.

How about focusing on finding real women instead? the ones with perhaps average appearance, yet healthy, warm, supportive, playful, intelligent, deep, caring?

Beauty fades, dumb is forever. 

[Shin]

9 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

That's an unchecked assumption. That might be true for you. You don't know that for everyone.

99% of women I encounter look just plain to me, and my business model requires discipline a lot more than interpersonal skills. Even if there is a business partner, business will be conducted online without seeing face most of the time.

It's just not going to be important enough as a factor to consider.

So you're never gonna interact with other girls in the real world ?

They are everywhere you know

Edited June 25, 2019 by Shin

[CreamCat]

20 minutes ago, Natasha said:

How about focusing on finding real women instead? the ones with perhaps average appearance, yet healthy, warm, supportive, playful, intelligent, deep, caring?

Beauty fades, dumb is forever. 

First, hot women are real women.

Second, I don't feel sexually attracted to roughly 93~95% of young women I encounter on streets. I feel really attracted to less than 0.5% of them. I don't feel sexually attracted to every man. My sexual preference is narrow and specific.

Third, I don't care much about intelligence in women. Rather, I care far more about discipline and loyalty than intelligence in a woman if she's going to be my wife. I mean I care more about balanced personal development than intelligence. For me, appearance is the primary attractor with personal development as the secondary. Poor personal development is a repellent.

If I really wanted to marry someone in a reasonable amount of time, I could probably settle with a mediocre woman. But, I am ok with waiting for hundreds of years before I begin to consider sex and dating.

Edited June 25, 2019 by CreamCat

[Natasha]

12 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

hot women are real women.

Real is what stays when beauty fades. Is she still going to be 'hot' in 30-40 years?

 

[DrewNows]

@CreamCat I feel we have much in common. I’m 29 and single, haven’t dated for a few years but also avoided woman/girls until I was in my early 20s in college. Then I didn’t lose my virginity until later. 

Anyways, it’s smart to drop the idea of interacting with the mission of having sex, because sex should be the result of a good strong connection with someone you have such a deep bond with, you don’t fear expressing yourself intimately, authentically. They should bring this out of you and vis-versa. Now deep connections can be had with anyone you choose, whether they are attractive or not, because connection and understanding ourselves is what we all really desire anyways 

[RendHeaven]

Benefits? Hmm...

Your dick starts to work ;D

[CreamCat]

40 minutes ago, Natasha said:

Real is what stays when beauty fades. Is she still going to be 'hot' in 30-40 years?

Of course not. But, we are attracted to physically attractive genes that are passed down generations.

Whether you like it or not, men and women are going to care about passing the best genes possible down MANY generations. To pass your genes down many generations, you need money, power, physical advantages, resourcefulness, etc, ... which have to come from somewhere.

Genes account a lot for physical attractiveness, intelligence, discipline, impulse control, etc, ...

If you ever cared about making children, you cannot escape the physical advantage of waist-hip ratio of 0.6 ~ 0.8 which men are attracted to. Nothing, not even me, can stop me from being attracted to waist-hip ratio of 0.6~0.8.

I know that you don't like evolution. I didn't like it either at first. But, it is going to be what it is for many years ahead.

People's love is not unconditional.

Edited June 25, 2019 by CreamCat

[Natasha]

@CreamCat  

I know a guy who found a very beautiful woman and married her.They were both Jewish and wanted to continue their genetic lineage. Were both college educated, good jobs, personal development junkies, had a kid - a beautiful girl who is taking after her mom in yoga instruction.

Well, the marriage eventually fell apart. Not because of infidelity, or lack of discipline, or money problems, etc, not even because of slightly fading looks (they're both still healthy and good looking in their 40s). They had everything going for them... except this one understanding that love is a choice.

32 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

I know that you don't like evolution.

How did you figure that?

[Shin]

 

 

[CreamCat]

28 minutes ago, Natasha said:

Well, the marriage eventually fell apart. Not because of infidelity, or lack of discipline, or money problems, etc, not even because of slightly fading looks (they're both still healthy and good looking in their 40s). They had everything going for them... except this one understanding that love is a choice.

I choose to love my computer and my speakers and my life purpose.

28 minutes ago, Natasha said:

How did you figure that?

Because you have hard time accepting what men are attracted to. What men and women are attracted to is out of everyone's control. No one has control.

If you think you can control it, you will be disappointed.

Edited June 25, 2019 by CreamCat

[DrewNows]

59 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

Of course not. But, we are attracted to physically attractive genes that are passed down generations.

Whether you like it or not, men and women are going to care about passing the best genes possible down MANY generations. To pass your genes down many generations, you need money, power, physical advantages, resourcefulness, etc, ... which have to come from somewhere.

Genes account a lot for physical attractiveness, intelligence, discipline, impulse control, etc, ..

 

 

[CreamCat]

1 minute ago, DrewNows said:

 

 

That doesn't mean gays are going to become bisexual or heterosexual due to environmental changes.

[Natasha]

20 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

I choose to love my computer and my speakers and my life purpose.

That's awesome. The point is - you can pick the most hot, perfect chest-waist ratio, genes, self-developed, loyal, and disciplined woman, but if both of you don't choose to accept each other when sickness, ugliness, disappointment, and doubt strikes, all those superficial things will never be able to compensate and help repair the relationship.

20 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

Because you have hard time accepting what men are attracted to. What men and women are attracted to is out of everyone's control. It's completely out of control.

If you think you are in control of this, you will be disappointed.

I understand. Besides, those preferences will change overtime too. So if yo don't scoop up a good 'hot' woman while you're still young, your chances will decrease significantly as years go by. When you're in your 50-60s and want a 'hot' woman in her 20-30s, be warned she's going to be with you only for your money and status, not love.

[CreamCat]

10 minutes ago, Natasha said:

So if yo don't scoop up a good 'hot' woman while you're still young. your chances will decrease significantly as years go by. When you're in your 50-60s and want a 'hot' woman in her 20-30s, be warned she's going to be with your for your money and status, not love.

If aging is not cured, I would rather die alone than marry someone.

If it is cured, I can easily wait for hundreds of years until I figure out life and start considering sex.

As I wrote before, I don't feel a need to marry. I'd rather get a kick in the nut than do it in a hurry.

Edited June 25, 2019 by CreamCat