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19 minutes ago, Faceless said:

The conditioned consciousness (conditioned mind) is thought. The self with all its conditioned movement. 

 

 

That’s a thought-story of thoughts. not thoughts as observable events in awareness.

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25 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

Thoughts and mind is the same thing.

That’s a thought-story you are clinging to.

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1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

That’s a thought-story you are clinging to.

Lol 

ah mr Joseph

 

The self is it’s conditioning right?

you don’t have to believe that. It is so. A fact. Look at the self. Your own conditioned movement. 

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Fear, attatchment, and so on....

You are that. Correct?

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8 minutes ago, Faceless said:

Lol 

ah mr Joseph

 

The self is it’s conditioning right?

you don’t have to believe that. It is so. A fact. Look at the self. Your own conditioned movement. 

‘Conditioned movement’ is a thought-story.

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38 minutes ago, Faceless said:

not talking theoretically here. 

 

What I am referring here to mind(consciousness) is all movement of the self. 

 

5 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

So what is not a thought?

I’m not talking about thoughts, but thought-stories.  Thought-stories are conceptual systems, paradigms, lenses, frameworks, conceptual interpretations, beliefs, etc.  

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Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

‘Conditioned movement’ is a thought-story.

These are words to describe the self lol 

 

All movement of thought/ego mr Joseph. Is that not a fact that is taking place. 

Is that not why you are attempting to cultivate and self improve. 

To attain your idea of “enlightenment”?

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The Conditioned self (experience, knowledge, memory) is a fact. 

Its not a “thought-story” 

infact it’s where all silly thought story’s are born and perpetuated. 

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Anyway back to the important question. 

It’s quite interesting how we know that the self is an illusion yet still move and act in a divisive manner. 

Isn’t it? 

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2 minutes ago, Faceless said:

The Conditioned self (experience, knowledge, memory) is a fact. 

Its not a “thought-story” 

infact it’s where all silly thought story’s are born and perpetuated. 

You need to learn the definition of thought-story.  You’re not even aware of what they are or aren’t.

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8 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

I don't know the difference between thoughts and thought-stories.

What is not a thought-story?

Seeing a cat in itself is not a thought-story.  A cat hissing at you in a particular manner in a particular context may cause you to consider a thought-story.  You might interpret the cat’s motive, for example.  That’s a thought-story.  Thought-stories are most often expressed in language.

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1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You need to learn the definition of thought-story.  You’re not even aware of what they are or aren’t.

Oh boy here we go 

we got a live one here. 

Ok go on your way then. 

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2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Seeing a cat in itself is not a thought story.

If you see a cat and recognize it as a cat that is a thought story 

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Yes anything recognized according to experience, knowledge, and memory is a movement of thought. 

 

But that process/movement is still a fact that takes place. 

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2 minutes ago, Faceless said:

If you see a cat and recognize it as a cat that is a thought story 

I didn’t say recognize it as a cat.  

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1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I didn’t say recognize it as a cat.  

Any movement and response in accordance to experience, knowledge, memory, is a movement of thought 

 

As all that is the self. 

 

This is a fact. 

 

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5 hours ago, Faceless said:

Yes anything recognized according to experience, knowledge, and memory is a movement of thought. 

I never said you need to recognize it as a cat at all.  You erroneously inferred that.  I can see a cat without simultaneously having the thought-story ‘this is a cat’ being present in awareness.  This is called being able to make the distinction between awareness and thought — a critical skill for Enlightenment Work.

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i Just shared what is considered a movement of thought. 

Do you see that anything responded in accordance to the above, is a movement of thought? 

Experience, knowledge, memory. 

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10 minutes ago, Faceless said:

i Just shared what is considered a movement of thought. 

Do you see that anything responded in accordance to the above, is a movement of thought? 

Experience, knowledge, memory. 

‘Movement of thought’ is a thought-story, conceptual system, framework, paradigm, lens, conceptual interpretation that you are clinging tightly to.  You need to raise your awareness of thought-stories aka conceptual systems: what they are, how they work, and how they function.

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