Karmadhi

Why is there so much hate in Europe and North America against Muslims?

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@Schahin You look like a Nation of Islam agent lol

 

Once again you are using me to project your pretention, aggression and racism. 

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@Schahin Your hate and lack of understanding will lead you to a bad place.

For the topic, culture differences.

 

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3 hours ago, Schahin said:

Well the hostility of Christians against Muslims certainly never ended at any point. The Crusades were a starting point, and the genocide in PAlestine which is openly supported by Western countries is a similar scenario just in a far greater barbaric dimension, due to modern war machinery. The geographical location is the same though and it is done with references and justification  of the Old Testament

But the average westerner isn't Christian. Seperation of church and state is a more fundamental difference between westerners and muslims in my opinion.

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4 hours ago, Schahin said:

If you read it without context, obviously you'll get that impression but if you really study it, with the context of how the first Muslims were persecuted, imprisoned and tortured by the traditional Idolatatres, that didnt want to give up their traditions and murdered and tortured violently the first muslims, then you will understand those verses in a totally different light.

Obviously that wont work as long as you accompany the demonization by Western Countries and also believe that Muslims deserve to be slaughtered, like its happening with the Palestinians right now, with full complicity of these so called Founders of Human rights, European countries.

The first step towards a genocide and another Holocaust is dehumanzing people. If you start to study the stories of the great Islamic Sufi Mystics, Like Hafez, Rumi, Ibn Arabi, Fatima of Nishapur, the stories of the 12 Imams and how some of these Imams sacrificed their lives for justice and against barbarity and dictatorship and were murdered violently without mercy, then you really understand the context and the story behind the revolution that Islam was about to bring instead of just jumping onto the Islamophob train.

@Basman

Well the hostility of Christians against Muslims certainly never ended at any point. The Crusades were a starting point, and the genocide in PAlestine which is openly supported by Western countries is a similar scenario just in a far greater barbaric dimension, due to modern war machinery. The geographical location is the same though and it is done with references and justification  of the Old Testament

@Schahin Look buddy. If you're dead set on defending islam at any cost then i won't be in the business of arguing with you. I'm not interested in mental gymnastics. Islam is clearly barbaric and outdated. What would you expect it to be? It originated 1400 years ago, in the arabian peninsula. 

Calling me an islamophobe for that is uncharitable. I'm not going to devote my life to studying islam, to have an "informed" opinion and understanding the context. 

Any modern person is turned off by islam. No person adheres to it, if not by indoctrination. Let that sink in.

If you are unable to cite a flaw in Islam, here it shows your bias. 

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2 hours ago, Majed said:

@Schahin Look buddy. If you're dead set on defending islam at any cost then i won't be in the business of arguing with you. I'm not interested in mental gymnastics. Islam is clearly barbaric and outdated. What would you expect it to be? It originated 1400 years ago, in the arabian peninsula. 

Calling me an islamophobe for that is uncharitable. I'm not going to devote my life to studying islam, to have an "informed" opinion and understanding the context. 

Any modern person is turned off by islam. No person adheres to it, if not by indoctrination. Let that sink in.

If you are unable to cite a flaw in Islam, here it shows your bias. 

 

Dude I am not even religious, I dont care about Islam, Christianity or Judaism.

I am not defending anything, I am just teaching you on what to study to have some truth on the subject instead of jumping on the train of Islamophobia and hating Muslims.

The topic is why are muslims hated so much in Europe and North America, look at the topic. And if you defend the hatred against Muslims I'll defend the Muslims, because hatred against 2 billion people is irrational and quite dangerous and can lead to ethnic cleansing, which we can currently all watch in 4k being done in the Gazastrip, Lebanon and the Westbank and before that in Iraq.

Or do you think anybody could support such atrocities without having a generation long hatred buried inside, that began with the crusades and holds on until today?

I'll make it easy for you. Just put my information and your information on Gemini and let AI answer your unwillingness to study the faith of 2 billion people. 

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3 hours ago, Basman said:

But the average westerner isn't Christian. Seperation of church and state is a more fundamental difference between westerners and muslims in my opinion.

 

Well according to all interviews and Podcasts I have listened to the last 3 years, american politicians in Congress support the Genocide against little muslim children in Palestine because  they say it is being demanded by God in the Old Testament.

Most of the american politicians that support the genocide in Palestine because of their faith. And why europeans do that, can have various reasons.

Crusades and a 1000 year long hostility is only part of that. The tradtional headscarves of muslim women and some radical muslims are of course another factor of attracting hatred. Allthough a headscarve should never attract hatred.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Schahin said:

 

Well according to all interviews and Podcasts I have listened to the last 3 years, american politicians in Congress support the Genocide against little muslim children in Palestine because  they say it is being demanded by God in the Old Testament.

Most of the american politicians that support the genocide in Palestine because of their faith. And why europeans do that, can have various reasons.

Crusades and a 1000 year long hostility is only part of that. The tradtional headscarves of muslim women and some radical muslims are of course another factor of attracting hatred. Allthough a headscarve should never attract hatred

Americans are a lot more Christian, but Europeans less so. For them it's more about migration.

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On 11/11/2026 at 0:37 PM, Majed said:

@Karmadhi It literally does lmao. Now most muslims cherry pick from their religion, so for they practice it more or less peacefully. But if you really study it, there are wild things said in Islam, in the Quran and the Hadiths. 

You can use that logic for other religions too, that do not get hatred or demonized the same way.

Only real exception is Budhism

Hinduism promotes racism through its cast system

Judaism promotes genocide through its amalek story and some sort of supremacy by calling x group 'chosen people"

Christianity has a lot of similarity with Islam for eg they want to stone LGBT, strong and clear gender roles etc

I remember there was this blogger who would recite passages from the Bible to random Americans and they sounded so extreme and harsh they thought it was from the Quran until they were told it is actually the Bible. It was Old testiment I believe.

I would argue Islam is slightly more morally advanced, because it appeared later in time and we all know as humanity evolves so does its morality

I am not shitting on any religion, I view them the same way you may view different movies, clearly from an impartial outside perspecitve

I have 0 emotional attachment to any of them

Therefore I fully understand that every religion was quite important and revolutionized the time it appeared

Still I see a disproportionate amount of demonization towards Islam, especially in more "official" places like politics, media etc

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1 hour ago, Karmadhi said:

You can use that logic for other religions too, that do not get hatred or demonized the same way.

Only real exception is Budhism

Hinduism promotes racism through its cast system

Judaism promotes genocide through its amalek story and some sort of supremacy by calling x group 'chosen people"

Christianity has a lot of similarity with Islam for eg they want to stone LGBT, strong and clear gender roles etc

I remember there was this blogger who would recite passages from the Bible to random Americans and they sounded so extreme and harsh they thought it was from the Quran until they were told it is actually the Bible. It was Old testiment I believe.

I would argue Islam is slightly more morally advanced, because it appeared later in time and we all know as humanity evolves so does its morality

I am not shitting on any religion, I view them the same way you may view different movies, clearly from an impartial outside perspecitve

I have 0 emotional attachment to any of them

Therefore I fully understand that every religion was quite important and revolutionized the time it appeared

Still I see a disproportionate amount of demonization towards Islam, especially in more "official" places like politics, media etc

 

Islam is the only Abrahamic Religion that abolishes slavery, while Judaism promotes Slavery and Christianity tolerates Slavery.

The Quran is in its entirety about doing good deeds, donating your money to the poor and to the orphans instead of accumulating wealth, and bringing justice and peace upon the world. 

Even the great Hindu Yogi and Mystic Paramahamsa Yogananda and Swami Sivananda praised the Quran as a lighthouse: https://yoganandasite.wordpress.com/2017/06/05/mohammed-and-islam-yogananda-and-sw-sivananda/

I trust Paramahamsas intellect and his extraordinarily spiritual capabilities including killing himself through conscious meditation much more than some hateful and racist figures online

The story of Abdul El-Sayed and Zohran Mamdani was to typical and unsuprising regarding Western Racism and Islamophobia, two politicians that want to bring justice and healthcare to their voters are demonized because of their faith from dusk till dawn, imagine doing that with a christian or jewish politician

@Basman

Migration can never be a reason or motive to support the mass murder of 25.000 little Children in Palestine. If you come to Germany and watch the debates and listen to the democratically elect politicians, you would like to vomit, they are so keen on destroying those peoples lives its incredible. 

 

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