Is Sadhguru a Charlatan?

[Sugarcoat]

29 minutes ago, Jirh said:

That's interesting. I never thought about Indie as a category in this case because it's not widely used for spiritual paths.

However, I don't really see the point in making a distinction between East and West in this context, because the internet is global and Sadhguru's audience is not exclusively eastern. He can't use the advantages and benefits of New Age without being New Age.

I didn't make any assertions regarding the spiritual depth of self-help. I just made an observation about how most traditional yogis actually move in the world. They don't go around learning new things with an open mind. Often, they just follow a very strict and narrow path directly under one master/yogi. Basically, they close their minds to any other perspective, even from another yogi. And the yogi himself doesn't always even share what he knows unless he decides the student is worthy.

Obviously, Sadhguru doesn't follow that pattern. So he's not a traditional yogi. He could be someone who studied yoga under some master and decided it's not enough, which is fine. But then that makes him yogi+, and the '+' in this case is self-help which is in many ways related to New Age.

I didn't use Indie in relation to spirituality but as in the pop culture meaning, aesthetics etc. Just a comparison I thought of. 

I meant Sadhguru himself not being New Age overall, irregardless of audience. I don't think including things that fit within New Age makes his teaching New Age at large.

Ok I see, yes Yogi has a certain definition. Have thought of it too, there are some defining criterias it seems. Sadhguru is so unique overall, at the core, a yogi, I'd say. Yogi+ more, yea

Edited 3 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[Leo Gura]

You can compare him to other popular yogis like Ravi Ravi Shankar or Yogananda.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Jameskells]

Brendan Lea (Cheng Hsin) - said that Sahguru's enlightenment experience is "bullshit".

 

@Leo Gura What's your take on this? 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Jameskells said:

Brendan Lea (Cheng Hsin) - said that Sahguru's enlightenment experience is "bullshit".

@Leo Gura What's your take on this? 

Lol.

Why is it bullshit? Sadhguru obviously understands the Infinite. To what degree is hard to know.

Ralston has brainwashed Brendan into only recognizing Ralston's version of spirituality, which is a mistake.

Spirituality is far more diverse than Ralstonism. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Jameskells]

He heard me critiquing his comment during a dyad.

 

He then said to me -  "set the record straight, I didn't say his enlightenment was b.s, I said his enlightenment experience was b.s".

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Jameskells said:

"set the record straight, I didn't say his enlightenment was b.s, I said his enlightenment experience was b.s".

Such needless spiritual pedantry.

[Carl-Richard]

34 minutes ago, Jameskells said:

He heard me critiquing his comment during a dyad.

 

He then said to me -  "set the record straight, I didn't say his enlightenment was b.s, I said his enlightenment experience was b.s".

And what does he mean by that? That his Chamundi hill story is bs?

[Jameskells]

14 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

That his Chamundi hill story is bs?

yeah 

[Breakingthewall]

Sadhguru is a genius. Is he enlightened? Maybe, being enlightened is not a big thing, is being open to the nature of reality.

Then you could say that if you die in an accident you go to hell because your last moment when you are dying is amplified to infinity, that people over 84 (exactly 84) reach nirvana and there are 63 universes, but only 3 are still alive. And that you can make the trees bleeding.

I guess it's a kind of joke, something that he says to get people perplexed , without a definite opinion, like....wtf? Or maybe he thinks seriously all that. Perplexity.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

And what does he mean by that? That his Chamundi hill story is bs?

That history when he's sitting in a rock and everything merges and he cried, seems authentic, it's the tipical experience of dissolution of the separate self. Millions of people have had that experience 

[Eskilon]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

being enlightened is not a big thing

Lmao. Yeah, you must be seeing buddhas left and right in your neighborhood.

Edited 41 minutes ago by Eskilon

[Leo Gura]

Sadhguru is a very serious person. What you see of him in YouTube clips barely does him justice.

The YT clips are for rubes.

Real recognizes Real.

Edited 33 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Sadhguru is a very serious person. What you see of him in YouTube clips barely does him justice.

The YT clips are for rubes.

Real recognizes Real.

I think once you get too much into a  public figure u fuck everything up.  That's why you were a public figure but you still remained fairly unknown.  That's not a knock on you That's what makes you special. You wee careful about that.

Edited 27 minutes ago by Inliytened1

[Leo Gura]

Sadhguru has guided millions of people into spiritual practice. That is a good thing, even though it is a bit conformist.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Sadhguru has guided millions of people into spiritual practice. That is a good thing, even though it is a bit conformist.

Not like you.

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Not like you.

Irrelevant.

He has his own way, which is fine.

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Irrelevant.

He has his own way, which is fine.

Well I don't know that way. That way was nothing like you.  

Edited 22 minutes ago by Inliytened1

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well I don't know that way. That way was nothing like you.  

Yoga is powerful when done religiously.

Yoga is great for those who will never find psychedelics.

Edited 15 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[Inliytened1]

You need to bring it gnuinse and there are very few teachers who can do that. I can count them on one finger. 

[Leo Gura]

Sadhguru is a genius.