Dating is getting crazier

[AION]

One of my fears is getting old and having to deal with these types. Lock 'm in young guys. It is not getting easier. Or you have to be like 50 year old going for 25 year old but in that case you need to have your health, weath and spirituality in order.

[integral]

Its about health mostly, and ye there hard to find. Go for the green woman because there easy to spot but that does not mean there going to be healthy. I just found green woman to have better compatibility to date then the other stages even when unhealthy.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by integral

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Lock them in young is code for "I need to attribute value to your age and imply some expirey to put you down and devalue you" 

Total turnoff for all high consciousness and high value women. 

🤮🤢

Edited 3 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Valach]

@AION I would highly recommend you to drop watching to any of this red pill content. It is designed for men with low self worth to keep them down. 

[Sincerity]

I think wanting to „lock anyone in” is not the most high consciousness thing. A healthy relationship isn’t about locking. This mindset is doomed from the start.

[AION]

30 minutes ago, Valach said:

@AION I would highly recommend you to drop watching to any of this red pill content. It is designed for men with low self worth to keep them down. 

I don't watch it. I come across it sometimes. 

 

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Lock them in young is code for "I need to attribute value to your age and imply some expirey to put you down and devalue you" 

Total turnoff for all high consciousness and high value women. 

🤮🤢

That is not how attraction works.  

4 hours ago, integral said:

Its about health mostly, and ye there hard to find. Go for the green woman because there easy to spot but that does not mean there going to be healthy. I just found green woman to have better compatibility to date then the other stages even when unhealthy.

 

I like to play with SD green but also lower. Every type of development has it pro's and cons. I wouldn't say a SD green girl is always better than for example SD blue. I look at potential too and coachability. From my exp, a lot of SD green women have been around the block and have a lot emotional baggage. You can easily recognize them by the undertone "all men" and men need to do x and y.

Just now, Sincerity said:

I think wanting to „lock anyone in” is not the most high consciousness thing. A healthy relationship isn’t about locking. This mindset is doomed from the start.

So what are you saying? You are saying open relationship is the only type of high cosncious relationship. You guys really need to drop these gimmicky words that don't mean anything. High consciousness is not a single metric to begin with.

Edited 2 hours ago by AION

[Valach]

Just now, AION said:

I don't watch it. I come across it sometimes. 

But you clearly watched it and even went so far to share it here. Simply do not click on those videos and the algorithm would stop suggesting them.

[integral]

1 minute ago, AION said:

I don't watch it. I come across it sometimes. 

 

That is not how attraction works.  

I like to play with SD green but also lower. Every type of development has it pro's and cons. I wouldn't say a SD green girl is always better than for example SD blue. I look at potential too and coachability. From my exp, a lot of SD green women have been around the block and have a lot emotional baggage. You can easily recognize them by the undertone "all men" and men need to do x and y.

I find that the women that talk about "all men" and men should be "x and y" tend to be orange.

But maybe we have different experiences.

[AION]

Just now, Valach said:

But you clearly watched it and even went so far to share it here. Simply do not click on those videos and the algorithm would stop suggesting them.

There is a grain of truth in it though. I think a new kind of pill should come out that takes the best of the material and leave out the toxic stuff.

[Valach]

1 minute ago, AION said:

There is a grain of truth in it though. I think a new kind of pill should come out that takes the best of the material and leave out the toxic stuff.

So you do admit that you watch it? How is it helping you?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AION how you think attraction works isn't it. Proof is in the pudding.

As you gain more experience you will learn. You are a bit young is all. 

It probably doesn't help you always link dating advice from poor sods who are desperately trying to explain women's behaviour as a form of cope.

[PenguinPablo]

17 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@AION how you think attraction works isn't it. Proof is in the pudding.

As you gain more experience you will learn. You are a bit young is all. 

It probably doesn't help you always link dating advice from poor sods who are desperately trying to explain women's behaviour as a form of cope.

Young guys should not waste their youth engrossed in this manosphere stuff. You will regret it in one form or another. At the very least it will be a massive misuse of your focus towards extremely biased information. And you will not relate to the opposite sex (nor male peers for that matter) authentically. That would be a great Actualized.org episode against all the pills, especially with Black Pill stuff becoming so prominent. It is sad to see but many young guys are resonating with it. 

[AION]

33 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@AION how you think attraction works isn't it. Proof is in the pudding.

As you gain more experience you will learn. You are a bit young is all. 

It probably doesn't help you always link dating advice from poor sods who are desperately trying to explain women's behaviour as a form of cope.

So what is the proof of the pudding? I'm doing ok and I'm dating right now. @Valach  to answer your question, red pill helped me because I only took the good stuff out of it. But I kind of outgrown it. Red pill isn't meant to linger in it. Especially it is sad if older men get stuck in it. 

11 minutes ago, PenguinPablo said:

Young guys should not waste their youth engrossed in this manosphere stuff. You will regret it in one form or another. At the very least it will be a massive misuse of your focus towards extremely biased information. And you will not relate to the opposite sex (nor male peers for that matter) authentically. That would be a great Actualized.org episode against all the pills, especially with Black Pill stuff becoming so prominent. It is sad to see but many young guys are resonating with it. 

Saying all of red pill is bad is throwing out the baby with the bath water. And it is also discounting the current masculinity grudge.

Edited 1 hour ago by AION

[something_else]

32 minutes ago, AION said:

red pill helped me because I only took the good stuff out of it

What are the bad parts that you have left, in your opinion?

[AION]

16 minutes ago, something_else said:

What are the bad parts that you have left, in your opinion?

The masculine grudge towards feminine nature.  I think if somebody has a grudge, it is palable, it doesn't matter if you are male or female.

[something_else]

9 minutes ago, AION said:

The masculine grudge towards feminine nature.  I think if somebody has a grudge, it is palable, it doesn't matter if you are male or female.

I think that’s fair. I’m not entirely convinced you’ve left that behind though, at least from the impression I get on this forum

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AION I haven't seen any demonstration or reference you have the ability to relationally connect to women to form a healthy, long term deep bond. 

Your words and post history on @AION and @StarStruck demonstrate this. 

Red pill has truth in observations - but it fundamentally overreactes in how it explains these observations, how they play out mechanistically and how to use the information. I do think you have more work to do ridding yourself of some of the poor inferences and preemptive conclusions of red pill. Many of which actually result in the opposite of what you want relationally. 

Even the fact you can't understand (and more so that you won't even try) me, shows how paradigm locked you are. In previous interactions you constantly try to force some strange frame of understanding on me that falls flat. 

You default to devaluing women. You fall prey to the just cause fallacy. This is leftover red pill poop.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, PenguinPablo said:

Young guys should not waste their youth engrossed in this manosphere stuff. You will regret it in one form or another. At the very least it will be a massive misuse of your focus towards extremely biased information. And you will not relate to the opposite sex (nor male peers for that matter) authentically. That would be a great Actualized.org episode against all the pills, especially with Black Pill stuff becoming so prominent. It is sad to see but many young guys are resonating with it. 

Agree wholeheartedly. It sets all these young guys up for distinctional relationship patterns that attract the exact thing they detest. 

Your point around it being a misuse of focus is 🎯

[AION]

@Natasha Tori Maru I’m dating actually right now. I think you are projecting. You have a grudge towards masculine men for some reason. And you know why. And for some reason you are projecting it onto me to resolve something inside of yourself. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AION I'm not talking about dating. 

These are just my observations from your posts. Notice that you had to default to interpretation rather than facts. 

I wish you luck dating. I can see my words of advice are wasted.

Peace.

Edited 18 minutes ago by Natasha Tori Maru