Anyone been following Russell brand’s rape trial?

[Seed]

@Consept he has to serve a minimum of seven years.

when he leaves his kids will be 17, 15 and 10 … he’ll have missed all their young childhood. 

one of his kids has a rare syndrome and is often poorly. He had to have open heart surgery when he was born and continues to have health issues.

 

 

 

[Thought Art]

Seems like a lot of me I grew up thinking were famous and interesting also are accused of sexual misconduct at least 

[Wilhelm44]

15 minutes ago, Seed said:

he has to serve a minimum of seven years.

Will the appeal process not bring this down to 5 eventually ?

[Seed]

@Wilhelm44 an appeal would mean a retrial.  But he has to have grounds to have that accepted. He can just appeal because he’s unhappy about the sentence length.

So far. He’s got a min of 7 as it’s a rape charge and all rape charges have to serve 2/3 behind bars.

He’s now sacked his lawyer due to mistreatment of the victims in cross examination which then prejudiced the jury. 
 

he’s been very unfortunate is all I can say….. it was a very odd trial

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Seed said:

@Wilhelm44 an appeal would mean a retrial.  But he has to have grounds to have that accepted. He can just appeal because he’s unhappy about the sentence length.

So far. He’s got a min of 7 as it’s a rape charge and all rape charges have to serve 2/3 behind bars.

He’s now sacked his lawyer due to mistreatment of the victims in cross examination which then prejudiced the jury. 
 

he’s been very unfortunate is all I can say….. it was a very odd trial

So you don't think there will be any appeal at all ?

[Seed]

2 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

So you don't think there will be any appeal at all ?

I don’t know what would be deemed as sufficient grounds for appeal?

I’m sure they will try - and the incompetency of the barrister is probably their strongest argument.

itll be hard to find an unbiased jury again though. It’s a tough gig. He’s really dug himself a Grand Canyon size hole 🕳️ 

[Jodistrict]

Of course Brand will appeal.   But success is unlikely. 

The judge gave detailed instructions to the jury.  The jury acquitted on some of the charges and it is evident that they carefully considered every charge individually.  Also the judge’s sentence was very meticulous and carefully considered.  He even reduced the rape charge by one year.  It wasn’t an excessive sentence.

And as for the the incompetent Barrister argument, see below.  Brand still is apparently unrepentant and has zero empathy for his victims and it has come back to bite him in the ass.  Karma comes around. 

The Incompetence Argument is Blocked by Brand’s Instructions

The sentencing judge, Mr Justice Bennathan, explicitly addressed the trial's aggressive, victim-blaming defense strategy during sentencing. In a direct statement to Brand, the judge noted: "That was all done because of you, on your instructions."

Under UK law, if a defendant gives their barrister specific instructions—such as telling them to aggressively attack the victims' credibility or push a particular narrative—the defendant cannot later claim the barrister was incompetent for following those instructions. Brand directly authorized the "attack-dog" cross-examination strategy that ultimately backfired with the jury.

[Consept]

3 hours ago, Seed said:

@Consept he has to serve a minimum of seven years.

when he leaves his kids will be 17, 15 and 10 … he’ll have missed all their young childhood. 

one of his kids has a rare syndrome and is often poorly. He had to have open heart surgery when he was born and continues to have health issues.

 

 

 

it is sad for them, but this whole thing of blaming everyone but the perpertrator doesnt really make sense to me. 

if i was a kid and my father did something to get himself time in prison, im not sure if would blame the system, id be disappointed in my dad. 

Ultimately the responsibility has to fall on Brand. I mean literally in the comedy world, comedians were warned about being alone with him. I dont think this is a case of being a bit unlucky, there was a real reputation that he built up over the years. 

[Seed]

33 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

Of course Brand will appeal.   But success is unlikely. 

The judge gave detailed instructions to the jury.  The jury acquitted on some of the charges and it is evident that they carefully considered every charge individually.  Also the judge’s sentence was very meticulous and carefully considered.  He even reduced the rape charge by one year.  It wasn’t an excessive sentence.

And as for the the incompetent Barrister argument, see below.  Brand still is apparently unrepentant and has zero empathy for his victims and it has come back to bite him in the ass.  Karma comes around. 

The Incompetence Argument is Blocked by Brand’s Instructions

The sentencing judge, Mr Justice Bennathan, explicitly addressed the trial's aggressive, victim-blaming defense strategy during sentencing. In a direct statement to Brand, the judge noted: "That was all done because of you, on your instructions."

Under UK law, if a defendant gives their barrister specific instructions—such as telling them to aggressively attack the victims' credibility or push a particular narrative—the defendant cannot later claim the barrister was incompetent for following those instructions. Brand directly authorized the "attack-dog" cross-examination strategy that ultimately backfired with the jury.

exactly why Brand is now furious and has sacked him.

He apparently didn’t instruct his lawyer to cross examine them in that way. 
 

Also , the lawyer is the one that needs to uphold competence! If an approach is unethical - they can’t do it! If they do - they’ve messed up not that the client. 

[Leo Gura]

Conspiracy cringe here:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DfiVHGkPwkb/

[Leo Gura]

More abuse:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DfiYLOGkhRr/

[Consept]

What about him talking to the king of pedophiles Jimmy Saville - https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxVcVhho2uf/?dlrf=MTBwZ3hkNnI5eWoxMQ==

[Seed]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

More abuse:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DfiYLOGkhRr/

She’s trying to clear her name as it’s been dragged up in the storm of allegations! 

They basically took out an anti harassment injunction as their massage therapist was making claims that she’d need assaulted by Russel and their dog. However CCTV proved this was false but she continued to send abusive, violent and anti sematic threats to them. 

The press have been hounding her for silencing a victim when that was clearly not the case.

she can’t been seen as sticking up for Brand either. 

[Seed]

@Leo Gura it is odd that the whole #metoo movement went by and nothing was said. Plenty of opportunities there to be believed and taken seriously….

Edited 3 hours ago by Seed