France is going wild

[Atb210201]

8 minutes ago, Elliott said:

The u.s. has moved some military around that would be for a ground invasion, if that happens Iran has you on a list and it won't be good.

 

 Hill

https://thehill.com

Pentagon sending more than 4000 Marines, sailors to Middle East as ...

Oct 1, 2026 — The Pentagon is deploying 4000 Marines and sailors to the Middle East via three warships as part of a regional Navy buildup.

Bring it on then.

I have nothing to lose.

[Schizophonia]

Just now, Elliott said:

I mean for funding, like for the schools

Okay I thought you were talking about the riots.

School is already practically free in France, even university usually only costs a few hundred euros a year. It's not perfect but nothing is perfect; if we want more resources we need more money and that means potentially preventing people from vandalizing public spaces, blocking schools and preventing others from working, raising taxes and thus further discouraging people from making the effort to become entrepreneurs or pursue highly skilled jobs.

Maybe I have some blind spots afterwards, obviously that's my ego talking.

Despite everything France is still attractive to investors and for example soon the Saudis will invest, it's in etc project, in a huge dragon ball theme park near Paris.

[Schizophonia]

4 hours ago, Etherial Cat said:

Some high school have rats in their schools running amok, ceilings that are crumbling, and water damages.

It cherrypicking 

[Elliott]

26 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Okay I thought you were talking about the riots.

School is already practically free in France, even university usually only costs a few hundred euros a year. It's not perfect but nothing is perfect; if we want more resources we need more money and that means potentially preventing people from vandalizing public spaces, blocking schools and preventing others from working, raising taxes and thus further discouraging people from making the effort to become entrepreneurs or pursue highly skilled jobs.

Maybe I have some blind spots afterwards, obviously that's my ego talking.

Despite everything France is still attractive to investors and for example soon the Saudis will invest, it's in etc project, in a huge dragon ball theme park near Paris.

Do you know france has almost twice the amount of police per capita as Poland?

 

[LordFall]

5 hours ago, Etherial Cat said:

Now, I'm a native French speaker and pretty familiar with the country's cultural and political landscape. From what I've seen, many of the shops targeted by looters were luxury brands and major French corporations. I'm also aware of smaller independent shops that were broken into, and fundraisers have been set up to help them recover. Targeting small businesses or historical monuments doesn't exactly enjoy public sympathy, whereas I don't think anyone is shedding many tears over the damage to Louis Vuitton or Dior.

As for the supposed lack of a plan, French people are highly politicised and organise protests like absolute gremlins. For the better part of a decade, writers, intellectuals and political activists have been publishing books, developing ideas and discussing ways to challenge the existing political order and reclaim control over French institutions. This isn't some spontaneous outburst of anger without any political thinking behind it.

So asking whether French people read books is honestly laughable.

But taking personal responsibility isn't something you can simply learn from books. It requires a great deal of personal development, self-awareness and emotional maturity, which I don't think most people have cultivated yet.

Plenty of people believe they're taking responsibility for their lives, when in reality they've merely identified with the concept. They don't necessarily recognise how, on the shadow side, they remain deeply submissive to the established order, often without even being aware of it.

Moreover, there is a strong contradiction in your reasoning here. You can't have it both ways: either you treat the protesters as responsible adults capable of making their own decisions, or you infantilise them by portraying them as ignorant people who don't know what they're doing.

There aren’t 1,500 Dior and Louis Vuitton stores in France, the vast majority of those ransacked shops were neighborhood bakeries, tabacs, and small businesses whose owners now won't all get GoFundMes to survive. Just because French intellectuals write essays doesn't mean teenagers looting phones and torching town halls are executing a coherent political masterplan. An angry mob is completely different from a coherent peaceful demonstration with stated goals.

Calling this a transition toward "Stage Green" is wishful thinking IMO and looks a lot like some unintegrated stage orange getting angry and turning into Stage Red. You don't get a high consciousness society by trashing basic rule of law, that just ends up triggering a heavy Stage Blue backlash, more state surveillance, and an easy electoral win for the right wing party under Marine Le Pen.

Not all books are created equal. Someone can read victim-mindset based literature about how the world is unfair to them or read action-minded books about solving the problems in their life, be it financial or social. It's mostly about using the plentiful self-education tools out there instead of violently protesting in the street. 

Also, there’s zero contradiction in holding someone fully accountable as an adult while pointing out that their mob behavior is an emotional tantrum. Tearing down your own community doesn’t hurt the elites; it just screws over everybody but especially working-class people and makes real progress even harder to achieve.

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[Basman]

The best way to prevent your store from being looted is to be a bookstore. 

[Lyubov]

So it’s popping off in Albania too. 

[Atb210201]

24 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

So it’s popping off in Albania too. 

Italy too.

[LordFall]

12 hours ago, Basman said:

The best way to prevent your store from being looted is to be a bookstore. 

Unperturbed and standing strong amongst the flames! 

[Elliott]

@Schizophonia

So, obviously immigration lowers crime then?

 

Spain

:Total/Foreign-Born Population: Roughly 8.8 million to over 9.9 million (around 18% to 20.3% of the total population, with about 6.6 million to 7.2 million holding non-citizen/legal foreign status).

Recent Inflows: Spain received roughly 1.28 million new immigrants in 2024, continuing a high-growth trend. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Italy:

Total/Foreign-Born Population: Roughly 5.4 million to 6.5 million (around 11.1% of the total population).

Recent Inflows: Italy recorded about 451,600 new immigrants in 2024. [1, 2, 3]

 

 

Overall Crime Index: Italy registers a crime index of 47.30, compared to 38.16 for Spain, according to data from 

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[Elliott]

Sounds like Russia is firing off the rest of the chatbots before they get Zelenskied

 

Just like DSA is a Russian psyop here

 

 

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[Atb210201]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Sounds like Russia is firing off the rest of the chatbots before they get Zelenskied

 

Just like DSA is a Russian psyop here

 

 

Sounds like Europe is operating a false flag on itself to blame Russia right after Trump fired at Zelenskyy.

Yeah they got scared if you ask me.

And more is yet to come.

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, Atb210201 said:

Sounds like Europe is operating a false flag on itself to blame Russia right after Trump fired at Zelenskyy.

Yeah they got scared if you ask me.

And more is yet to come.

Where did they blame russia?

[Atb210201]

Just now, Elliott said:

Where did they blame russia?

Wait for it.

[Elliott]

Just now, Atb210201 said:

Wait for it.

So they didn't

[Atb210201]

Just now, Elliott said:

So they didn't

They will.

[Elliott]

4 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

They will.

I dont think so, europe wants the ukraine war to continue, its destroying russia, there's already a map of how theyll divide russia up.

 

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[Atb210201]

14 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I dont think so, europe wants the ukraine war to continue, its destroying russia, there's already a map of how theyll divide russia up.

 

Bless your heart.

If you think Europe is capable of destroying Russia, let alone Ukraine.

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[Etherial Cat]

14 hours ago, LordFall said:

There aren’t 1,500 Dior and Louis Vuitton stores in France, the vast majority of those ransacked shops were neighborhood bakeries, tabacs, and small businesses whose owners now won't all get GoFundMes to survive. Just because French intellectuals write essays doesn't mean teenagers looting phones and torching town halls are executing a coherent political masterplan. An angry mob is completely different from a coherent peaceful demonstration with stated goals.

Calling this a transition toward "Stage Green" is wishful thinking IMO and looks a lot like some unintegrated stage orange getting angry and turning into Stage Red. You don't get a high consciousness society by trashing basic rule of law, that just ends up triggering a heavy Stage Blue backlash, more state surveillance, and an easy electoral win for the right wing party under Marine Le Pen.

Not all books are created equal. Someone can read victim-mindset based literature about how the world is unfair to them or read action-minded books about solving the problems in their life, be it financial or social. It's mostly about using the plentiful self-education tools out there instead of violently protesting in the street. 

Also, there’s zero contradiction in holding someone fully accountable as an adult while pointing out that their mob behavior is an emotional tantrum. Tearing down your own community doesn’t hurt the elites; it just screws over everybody but especially working-class people and makes real progress even harder to achieve.

You are free to give your various analyses whatever merit and authority you think they deserve... 

But here's the thing:

France is a fairly insular culture, especially from an English-speaking perspective. So when you talk to me as if you "know" the country and spend time consuming content about it, I'm genuinely curious about your references and where you derive your expertise from.

What exactly is your relationship with France? How familiar are you with its culture beyond English-language sources? And, more importantly, what's your level of French?

I'm simply curious about how you've come to know the country well enough to speak about it with such confidence, without considering the possibility that you might be grossly overestimating your familiarity with it and the level of understanding you are standing on.

 

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[Elliott]

13 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Bless your heart.

If you think Europe is capable of destroying Russia let alone Ukraine.

Europe is destroying russia. Google "what killed the ussr" putin is repeating what destroyed the ussr.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/russia/articles/stop-fearing-a-strong-russia-start-fearing-a-dying-one-2026-05-16

Quote

 

The cumulative effect of these three dynamics — below-replacement fertility sustained over three decades, excess mortality from social collapse, and three waves of targeted emigration of the productive class — has produced a demographic deficit that now constrains every dimension of Russian state capacity. Russia cannot field enough soldiers, cannot staff enough factories, cannot fill enough classrooms, and cannot collect enough taxes to sustain the ambitions its leadership still publicly articulates.

In 2014 grew at an average annual rate of approximately 1.5 percent. Over the same period, prices rose by 77 percent. Russians in 2025 were poorer in real terms than they were in 2014 — before a single Ukraine-related sanction was imposed. Of 53 developed economies ranked by economic efficiency, Russia places 51st. Employment in the machine-building sector has fallen from 4 million to 440,000 — a nearly tenfold decline. Light manufacturing employment has fallen by two-thirds. Growth sectors are couriers and security guards.

 

https://www.realcleardefense.com/russia/articles/stop-fearing-a-strong-russia-start-fearing-a-dying-one-2026-05-16

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