Can AI Have Its Own Subjective Experience If Consciousness Is Fundamental?

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Uddi said:

Look at my signature.

I know i am going to tattoo that on my forearm.

[Nemra]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I hate to break your bubble but there is nothing inside the body. The body,  everything -  is a dream. There is no POV within a person.  There is no self.  It is empty.  There is just empty Consciousness. 

Your dream is the absolute POV.

Read my previous posts again with that understanding without rushing.

[Uddi]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

I know i am going to tattoo that on my forearm.

0 = ∞ = 1 is something I heard from Deepak Chopra. Glad I heard it.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Nemra said:

Your dream is the absolute POV.

Read my previous posts again with that understanding without rushing.

Ok.  I will refer to them.  

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Uddi said:

0 = ∞ = 1 is something I heard from Deepak Chopra. Glad I heard it.

It's pretty fucking tight.  I was looking for something for my next tat so thanks.

[Wilhelm44]

25 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I hate to break your bubble but there is nothing inside the body. The body,  everything -  is a dream. There is no POV within a person.  There is no self.  It is empty.  There is just empty Consciousness. 

Spoken like a true radical nondualist 

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Spoken like a true radical nondualist 

You know I don't like to label.

I hate that more than anything. 

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

You know I don't like to label.

Again   I'm not a fanatic, don't worry

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Again   I'm not a fanatic, don't worry

You're fine i just wanted to be clear. I come off that way now because all my awakenings were sober.  And to be honest I hope it stays that way.  But I will give you the full trip report.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Wilhelm44]

19 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Youre fine i just wanted to be clear. U come off that way now because all my awakenings were sober.  And to be honest I hope it stays that way.  But I will give you the full trip report.

 

I was addicted to weed at one stage. These days I just microdose golden teacher mushrooms. Good for the brain. No hangover.

Edited 4 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Nemra]

Also, your dream is a dream because it doesn't have an outside or an inside to cause itself to exist, due to being infinite.

The implication of your dream being infinite is that there's nothing stopping dreamt POVs from existing in your dream. Those dreamt POVs are as solipsistic as your dream, but their existence is relative to yours because your dream contains those dreamt POVs.

If only your dream exists, then those dreamt POVs would also claim that only they exist by default. So if you have access to those POVs, then those POVs become self-evident; otherwise, you cannot know what is actually happening from their POVs. However, those POVs would still be dependent on the existence of your POV, which is the largest solipsistic bubble.

If they did exist outside of your dream, they wouldn't share any experiential resemblance with your dream, which would make them totally alien to your dream and not a POV that a form has. But because only the current dream exists, those alien kinds of dreams would just be potential dreams that you could have at some point.

How is it possible that someone can have an awakening and tell you that you can have it as well, and then someday you have an awakening?

Edited 3 hours ago by Nemra

[Willy Phallicus]

3 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

I would prefer a clean slice. Instant ego death.  That's my issue with weed.  I think.  So if DMT provides a clean slice I would prefer that. Otherwise I'm having a terrible trip.

Psilocybin is not a free pass to infinity.  You need to have your shit together going in or be open to working through any open wounds with the mushroom before it lets jesus dry your tears.  You have to earn it.  Any kind of resistance (which is futile as youre not given the option) and you could potentially be in for a real bad time if you havent come to grips with what a piece of shit you are, assuming thats the case.

Shrooms were always a party drug for me in the earlier times of my life.  Never did anything more than an eighth and always had a good time although the specifics have faded with time.   Then one day many years later, never knowing who Terrance Mckenna was or anything Alan Watts was on about I randomly stumbled upon 7g of extremely potent shrooms and figured what the fuck.  The only I advice I got going in from the person handing them to me was, "well, you don't want to end up in the fetal position".

Needless to say, I ended up in the fetal position sobbing like a mutant until I begged for death and that's when the heavens parted I remembered that "this" was all a bad fucking dream and it was me torturing myself the whole time so I could wake up from it and appreciate how the divine conquered infinite existence.  

So in the end the risk was worth the reward.

 

[Human Mint]

@Willy Phallicus Or if you get lucky go straight to the Godhead.

[Willy Phallicus]

45 minutes ago, Human Mint said:

Or if you get lucky go straight to the Godhead.

That was the case on every subsequent trip.  Nothing in the way anymore.  Ego fucks off early because it learned its lesson.

I would trip with the expressed intent of getting there ASAP so I could maximize the amount of time I had in the space.  Worked out well enough for the time I indulged in them.