If you self-identify with any upper SD stage, you're CRINGE

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Ramanujan said:

i mean , you wont try to bragg off the high stage you are in.  if someone is yellow , they wont try to bragg off that they are yellow. they will be humble

I can tell right away if someone has not integrated Yellow.  The book is very clear about Yellow.  

[Ramanujan]

7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I can tell right away if someone has not integrated Yellow.  The book is very clear about Yellow.  

cool

[Zenterus]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This is a lie.

I was clearly joking.

[AION]

In theory and practice it is possible to be tier 2 and not be humble or even be a bad person. Since the moral developmental line is just one part of the aggregate of developmental lines that make up a stage. When you are tier 2 you can embody both being humble and proud depending on the situation.  

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Zenterus said:

I was clearly joking.

It is clear to you, not clear to others.

[oOo]

You guys are just being passive aggressive.

You're sorting your beliefs out through the currency of the ecosystem.

Self-reflect; interconnect; redirect.

[oOo]

1 minute ago, oOo said:

You guys are just being passive aggressive.

You're sorting your beliefs out through the currency of the ecosystem.

Self-reflect; interconnect; redirect.

And break the stone into water.

If you are water, you can handle the heat.

Get it?

[Joseph Maynor]

10 minutes ago, oOo said:

You guys are just being passive aggressive.

You're sorting your beliefs out through the currency of the ecosystem.

Self-reflect; interconnect; redirect.

I can't stand passive aggression.  Please explain.  

[oOo]

13 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I can't stand passive aggression.  Please explain.  

It's a natural defense mechanism when awareness does not supersede an ego threat.

It's not my place to judge, however the thread began with a toxic judgement.

I define a toxic judgement as a judgement that breeds toxicity.

Toxicity doesn't even need to be intellectually measured per se, as the taste on the tongue informs the intellect immediately. 

The purpose of creating a thread on a personal development forum is to discern the truth of the notions being examined.

No single person has cited one single example reflecting the historical accuracy of the thread creator, nor the thread creator themselves.

Yet, in more ways than one, many have instead chosen to doggedly insulate themselves into this fictitious reality regarding spiral dynamics false self-assignments and the context of those representations. 

The question must be why, and how it happened; one of those is clearly social influence, the other is the initial imbalance (defense + awareness + threat) I noted. 

I have clearly stated where more critical thinking is required in this example: social + self + model; differentiated from the singular and whole identity of each of those three.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by oOo

[Joseph Maynor]

I think one of the aspects of Stage Orange is the idea that we need to constantly worry that we are not performing good enough.  For example, I spent a lot of time getting the perfect mouthpiece for my trumpets, but when I got my cornet refurbished, we quickly picked a mouthpiece that I played with that because it was my first horn.  The reality is it is just fine.  

[AION]

Ask AI who is the smartest in this thread 😭

[Ulax]

1 hour ago, Zenterus said:

I was clearly joking.

Justice for Zenty

[Natasha Tori Maru]

26 minutes ago, AION said:

Ask AI who is the smartest in this thread 😭

A better question to AI is who is demonstrating spiral dynamics stages through the interaction here.

[AION]

20 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

A better question to AI is who is demonstrating spiral dynamics stages through the interaction here.

you are not even in the top 10 SD ranking for this thread 😭

[Natasha Tori Maru]

11 minutes ago, AION said:

you are not even in the top 10 SD ranking for this thread 😭

Did you think I proposed that question thinking I would be weighted favourably? Wrong. It's just an interesting alternative data point to analyse. 

But I know you love me, and this is how you continually express it  constipated as it may be!

You want to be in my most liked club!

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, AION said:

Ask AI who is the smartest in this thread 😭

Being smart in this thread would be kinda embarrassing.

Edited 59 minutes ago by Carl-Richard

[AION]

3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Did you think I proposed that question thinking I would be weighted favourably? Wrong. It's just an interesting alternative data point to analyse. 

But I know you love me, and this is how you continually express it  constipated as it may be!

You want to be in my most liked club!

I don´t know how you made that connection but I asked AI and I got this.

[Ulax]

1 minute ago, AION said:

I don´t know how you made that connection but I asked AI and I got this.

 

5 minutes ago, AION said:

I don´t know how you made that connection but I asked AI and I got this.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Being smart in this thread would be kinda embarrassing.

We needed another hierarchy, desperately!

[oOo]

@Ulax How do people against Trump as president, not wish that Kaye instead was?

All those Trump haters were Kanye doubters. So they only have themselves to blame for that.

It's an interesting exercise to try to imagine the kind of changes Kanye would have wanted to create.

It's now a trope that creative people get stifled down to be less creative when they speak in a language style that is uncomfortable for people.

Then they get bullied, when their creativity is not a performance but a way of how their consciousness just is. 

I am not saying I supported Kanye, I am saying there's a meaningful enough difference that Kanye was genuinely the better choice despite what others may believe. 

I'd be happy to have a rational dialogue on it.