Why is Omnipotence harder to realize than Omnipresence and Omniscience?

[Davino]

Why is Omnipotence harder to realize than Omnipresence and Omniscience?

I've noticed an asymmetry in my Awakenings regarding these 3 axis. For example, I'm aware right now that the nature of existence, my very own nature, is to be Omnipresent, a oneness manifested through difference; it's not perceived as a rarified state but as what Reality is.

Moving up, we have Omniscience which is a hard Awakening to have but still it has happened and continues to do once in a while. To be fully Awake and to understand in a perfectly delicious strangeloopy flash all of Reality.

However, with Omnipotence development has been modest, to say the least. In that regard it has been more on the mechanics of how Powerful Reality is to self-generate and the intrinsic ultimate authority of being God, rather than being in full control and driving the vehicle of Reality itself so to speak.

I'm just curious about this asymmetry and wanted to share it.

[Someone here]

Do you understand it theoretically but haven’t gotten a direct realization of it ?

 Do you understand why God/Reality/Infinity must be all powerful? 

[Davino]

3 hours ago, Someone here said:

Do you understand it theoretically but haven’t gotten a direct realization of it ?

 Do you understand why God/Reality/Infinity must be all powerful? 

Yes, I understand it and see how everything is leading me there but progress is stagnant in comparison with other facets, it seems a much harder nut to crack.

[Someone here]

@Davino if god is infinity , what would limit god’s power ?

[Davino]

42 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Davino if god is infinity , what would limit god’s power ?

Of course itself/myself, the point is how to unimagine those limits and take full blown ownership of Omnipotence. This isn't done by more spiritual intelligence but with a raw crazy Awakening and that is a quantum leap.

What would be helpful from a spirituality intelligence standpoint and maybe you can help me with that, is why is Omnipotence harder to realize than Omnipresence and Omniscience. For example even in Jainism they talk that at the highest levels Omniscience is a thing but not about Omnipotence.

[Eskilon]

@Davino If you are omniscient, how is that not automatically omnipotence？What more power is left out when you you are omniscient?

I struggle to see how can an omniscient one can have weakness or fear, and thus not have full power...

Edited 2 hours ago by Eskilon

[cetus]

@Davino I don't think it's possible while being human. To actually "be" that. It would be easier to become pure light than omnipotent.

[JoshB]

I've had states where I have had brief Omnipotence. The fact you are even conscious right now shows your own omnipotence at work this very moment . Because God / Consciousness is nothing / infinite it's Absolute and Singular.  Which means you are the creator of yourself and are only conscious Mind there is. The trick with omnipotence is you can not have ANY sense of other in your direct experience. The second other is imagined and taken seriously is when infinite power is lost. Because God needs to subdivide that will across multiple wills, authorities, desires, experiences, etc. Even the DREAM itself must be seen through. Because none of that is 1st order.

I rank omnipresence as the easiest to realize with omniscience 2nd. 

I see it as follows, when the body is deconstructed and dissolved the door to omnipresence opens. And when the ego mind is dissolved or realized as a relative partition of consciousness then the door to omniscience opens. And when the sense of other is dissolved or deconstructed the door to omnipotence opens.  

The challenge in realizing omnipotence is the magnitude and scope of it. It requires the absolute deconstruction of everything, but the trick also is you constructed absolutely everything. And it requires realizing the other omni facets to aid in that deconstruction. Insanity also plays a role as well. Time also needs to be deconstructed as well. 

The only way You/God can be omnipotent is if there is only ONE Will which means the total annihilation of ANY and ALL OTHER 

Aloneness = Omnipotence

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by JoshB
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[Davino]

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

@Davino If you are omniscient, how is that not automatically omnipotence？What more power is left out when you you are omniscient?

I struggle to see how can an omniscient one can have weakness or fear, and thus not have full power...

You'd be surprise how Awakening facets happen individually or in aggregate, what seems logically the case doesn't always happen. By that logic, by realising Oneness you'd also realize Love, Perfection, Consciousness, Truth, Infinity, Omnipresence, Omniscience, Omnipotence, God, etc.

It just doesn't happen like that, for the ones that have spiritual experiences, although from outside it seems very clear how they all must converge.

[Davino]

1 hour ago, cetus said:

@Davino I don't think it's possible while being human. To actually "be" that. It would be easier to become pure light than omnipotent.

It's also impossible to get Omnipresence from being human yet it is an ever present Reality. 

The pure Light/Consciousness Awakening I had it at very beginnings of my spiritual journey, it was fairly easy in comparison with these kinds of Awakenings.

[JoshB]

@Davino

[Davino]

@JoshB That's a great input, I really appreciate it man.

Could you explain how that Omnipotence Awakening was for you? Like experientially?

[JoshB]

4 minutes ago, Davino said:

It's also impossible to get Omnipresence from being human yet it is an ever present Reality. 

The pure Light/Consciousness Awakening I had it at very beginnings of my spiritual journey, it was fairly easy in comparison with these kinds of Awakenings.

You can dissolve the actuality of a body and be omnipresent whilst having an appearance of a body. 

Thats the holographic aspect of conciousness. You can realize the entire universe is also a hair on your nutsack 

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[Davino]

Just now, JoshB said:

You can dissolve the actuality of a body and be omnipresent whilst having an appearance of a body. 

Yes, that was what I was trying to say. We're aligned in Omnipresence and Omniscience. Allow me to go the edge with Omnipotence.

[Davino]

@JoshB Okay, contemplating what I said I got a deeper insight on others, will and limits. I'm curious how my consciousness can fully take back its fragmented authority or otherwise align all wills into my God-self sentience and consciously self-create myself into any potential configuration I will.

[JoshB]

4 minutes ago, Davino said:

@JoshB That's a great input, I really appreciate it man.

How so? 

And you deconstruct other completely when this happens. There is no other mind or will in existence.

Then you realize your own consciousness as the substrate of everything. You realize that absolutely everything is your own imagination.

You realize that your Will and Mind are absolute. This means that all distinctions within reality / experience are being made by you. Inc radical distinctions such as real or not real. The only reason why something is real is because your mind is making that distinction. 

There is also no longer an external source of truth. So the only one that determines what is True is you because you ARE Truth. 

Epistemology collapses hard into Being. You basically just realize there is no other to counteract the imagination of your mind. 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

Omnipotence requires realization of the Creator IMO.  

[JoshB]

13 minutes ago, Davino said:

@JoshB Okay, contemplating what I said I got a deeper insight on others, will and limits. I'm curious how my consciousness can fully take back its fragmented authority or otherwise align all wills into my God-self sentience and consciously self-create myself into any potential configuration I will.

You can realize infinity and still not realize what I am saying

There is NO fragmentation that is the illusion 

There was only Absolute Omnipotent Authority the entire time

Edited 1 hour ago by JoshB

[Davino]

4 minutes ago, JoshB said:

How so? 

And you deconstruct other completely when this happens. There is no other mind or will in existence.

Then you realize your own consciousness as the substrate of everything. You realize that absolutely everything is your own imagination.

You realize that your Will and Mind are absolute. This means that all distinctions within reality / experience are being made by you. Inc radical distinctions such as real or not real. The only reason why something is real is because your mind is making that distinction. 

There is also no longer an external source of truth. So the only one that determines what is True is you because you ARE Truth. 

Epistemology collapses hard into Being. You basically just realize there is no other to counteract the imagination of your mind. 

 

I've had all of that, but that doesn't mean I'm able to fly or shift Reality into a cartoon world to my Will. I'm still self-limiting even though I'm fully aware of the nature of limits and my Absoluteness, ultimate Authority. It demands even more consciousness I guess or grace/luck/fruition.

[Joseph Maynor]

Being the Creator doesn't mean that the finite self has free will.