The Tension Before the Approach

[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 minutes ago, Ulax said:

My interpretation was you were arguing that someone's understanding of their inner experiences ought to be prioritised over an outsider's understanding of them

Not quite, I probably didn't formulate my point clearly enough. I’m not arguing that a persons understanding of their own inner experience should automatically be prioritised over another persons interpretation (or that self-report is infallible). My point is much narrower: when we have an inference about someone’s internal state, and that person tells us our inference doesn't match their actual experience, that should be treated as evidence worth considering. It should prompt some healthy doubt about whether our model is accurate (hence why I also raised about gathering information and testing against current models + updating if needed).

They may be wrong about themselves, and we may be wrong about them. Neither position should be treated as automatically infallible. But in this specific case, given forum history and context (always asserting how "things are for women" or how "I am", lack of openness in this domain, lack of enquiry or probing questions, demonstrated inability to update models or drop frame, and general uncharitable engagement) my position is well founded. 

[Jirh]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Hey he is claiming her...I kinda wanted dibbs but he beat me to it.  Not cringe.  She's quality.

Not sure where we are gonna find her elsewhere.

OMG! 🤢

What's the matter with you guys?

Thank God I'm not a female on this forum.