why women fall for narcissists

[LordFall]

2 minutes ago, vibv said:

This is a Knowing. I can't explain it, it's just there.

I'm pretty sure you can access it, too, if you let go of your sanity.

Sanity acts like a shield against those things. Only by going beyond sanity will you know GOD.

But be warned, there's things you can't reverse once seen.

I understand, I think it's kinda neat to play around with different ideas in your mind. Unless you can manifest it in reality and find proof of it in the world then it's not much more useful than the homeless guy that was trying to teach me about astrophysics the other day. 

2 minutes ago, Optimized Life said:

@LordFall Dude i appreciate your response but unless leo answers my question directly, within the context of the exact qoute i am referring to, then this contradiction will never be resolved. 

Leo literally said himself "pussy flocks to you when you are god" or something like that, i want to understand what this means and again, he specifically said that being god is THE HIGHEST level of game ..

No one here can related to or suddenly just become a mega millionaire celebrity or build some crazy social circle, i am interesting in game, mindset, ect.. these things are in my control, and way more realistic to implement in the short term. 

Becoming a famous millionnaire is in your control. Game is pitching yourself to women. If you have more to offer you will get more women. If you are a random guy there is a limit to the quality of experiences you can achieve and offer the women and overall people in your life. 

Depends what kind of women you're into though and what kind of life you're looking to build ultimately. 

[vibv]

10 minutes ago, LordFall said:

I understand, I think it's kinda neat to play around with different ideas in your mind. Unless you can manifest it in reality and find proof of it in the world then it's not much more useful than the homeless guy that was trying to teach me about astrophysics the other day. 

That's your sanity getting in the way  ✨

Which is fine, it has good reasons to.

What's the difference between me and that homeless guy? From your perspective: None. You have to access that Knowing yourself, no one can give it to you. That's the beauty of it.

But as soon as you do everyone - even the whole universe - starts speaking only Truth.

But they don't mean to.
What's being said is always true, what's being meant never. How's that for a paradox?

Which is why I never speak to you per se, but only ever to the Cosmos itself.

One day it'll all be understood. One day...

It's all about creating a Work Of Art and we are simultaneously the brush and the canvas.

Edited 1 hour ago by vibv

[Optimized Life]

5 minutes ago, LordFall said:

 Becoming a famous millionnaire is in your control. Game is pitching yourself to women. If you have more to offer you will get more women. If you are a random guy there is a limit to the quality of experiences you can achieve and offer the women and overall people in your life. 

yes but it takes a LONG ASS TIME 

What you expect me to do in the mean time? just not date for another 5 or 10 years? 

You can break through those limits to a large extent with persistence and lots of approaches, but of course, you can never reach the cieling of being a literal celebrity in hollywood, this is so obvious that we shouldnt even discuss it. 

I dont disagree with what you're saying per se but this isnt the question i was asking leo

Also, i am already very good looking and jacked, i am literally better looking than most a list celebrities, so any extra amount of game i can get will serve me extremely well in the meantime. 

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Game is pitching yourself to women.

Thats a perspective of yours and perhaps a half truth but im not sure i would put it like that personally 

Game is just the specific way in which you relate to, and seduce women

Edited 1 hour ago by Optimized Life

[LordFall]

13 minutes ago, Optimized Life said:

yes but it takes a LONG ASS TIME 

What you expect me to do in the mean time? just not date for another 5 or 10 years? 

You can break through those limits to a large extent with persistence and lots of approaches, but of course, you can never reach the cieling of being a literal celebrity in hollywood, this is so obvious that we shouldnt even discuss it. 

I dont disagree with what you're saying per se but this isnt the question i was asking leo

Also, i am already very good looking and jacked, i am literally better looking than most a list celebrities, so any extra amount of game i can get will serve me extremely well in the meantime. 

Thats a perspective of yours and perhaps a half truth but im not sure i would put it like that personally 

Game is just the specific way in which you relate to, and seduce women

You can host an event this Sunday and film it and post it on social media. You can cold approach women in the next few days to populate the event as well as DM women on Instagram/run an ad. Why wait 5-10 years? You have wrong ideas about this stuff.

16 minutes ago, vibv said:

That's your sanity getting in the way  ✨

Which is fine, it has good reasons to.

What's the difference between me and that homeless guy? From your perspective: None. You have to access that Knowing yourself, no one can give it to you. That's the beauty of it.

But as soon as you do everyone - even the whole universe - starts speaking only Truth.

But they don't mean to.
What's being said is always true, what's being meant never. How's that for a paradox?

Which is why I never speak to you per se, but only ever to the Cosmos itself.

One day it'll all be understood. One day...

It's all about creating a Work Of Art and we are simultaneously the brush and the canvas.

I've asked you for truth, proof is truth materialized in reality. I would warn against a lack of sanity to deal with the existential dread and anxiety that the problems of reality induce in us. 

[Optimized Life]

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You can host an event this Sunday and film it and post it on social media. You can cold approach women in the next few days to populate the event as well as DM women on Instagram/run an ad. Why wait 5-10 years? You have wrong ideas about this stuff.

I'm done with your autistic, nerdy bullshit. 

I'm not running a fucking ad to get pussy 

@Leo Gura I had an original intelligent question on a previous page, if you can answer it thoughtfully, i will send you $5000 USD in a few years when i am rich af, and im not even joking

Edited 1 hour ago by Optimized Life

[LordFall]

2 minutes ago, Optimized Life said:

I'm done with your autistic, nerdy bullshit. 

I'm not running a fucking ad to get pussy 

I think you're projecting on one of these fascets my friend. Right so you call me nerdy but you want to learn God game to optimize your cold approach? Okay bro 

It's not that crazy, all the hottest women in the world are on Instagram. You spend $30 to get 10 of them to come to your event. If that blows your mind idk you'll freak out when you find out how computers work and the technology needed to power the forum you're using now.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[vibv]

9 minutes ago, LordFall said:

I've asked you for truth, proof is truth materialized in reality. I would warn against a lack of sanity to deal with the existential dread and anxiety that the problems of reality induce in us. 

 

[eos_nyxia]

No one went into the very obvious trauma and female social indoctrination conditioning growing up? 

For what it's worth, manipulative people don't usually show all of their hand at first before a person is hooked, unless they are very confident in their ability to pull it off and/or are stupid. Women/ girls often have their guard up the most up at the beginning, because "strangers", and things often fall apart once that guard is down. 

If you are deeply conditioned since early childhood to accept certain things from males in your life, you will miss a lot of signs that might otherwise be clear as day. It's like a preconditioned blindness or selective seeing. This means in order to not fail at getting duped by a guy who hides his nature, you need to have the foresight to anticipate that a person is no good for you, which is often a combination of gut intuition (which we're often conditioned to ignore as girls) and knowing exactly what tells to look for before the situation escalates and gets out of control (abuse, trafficking, etc.). You need to have a clear enough sense of self, a decent understanding of people's motives, and the strength to trust in yourself even if others tell you there is nothing to worry about. You also need to feel like your well being fundamentally matters. By the way, a woman can appear confident or like she has so much social power and many different options without having any of these traits I just mentioned.

Many girls start dating when they are pretty damn young, like even in their early teens. Most people learn by getting burnt first, and then trying to learn from those experiences. From observing from the outside: by the time many women figure it out, there is a lot of bitterness and accumulated baggage. Many are done with men by that point.  This is especially true right now with the women who are opting out. 

And by "foresight", it's often straight up hypervigilance.

In my experience, do you know who is the best at predicting who is going to be a user before they get used? People who got used and abused by people growing up, especially by their own parents and caregivers. I'm that way, My husband is that way. Both of us were pretty good at avoiding getting screwed by people when we were young. There's often a terrible cost for that level of clarity and discernment when it comes to sussing. Do you want to live watching your back all the time because people always want something from you and they might be willing to destroy you in the process as long as they get what they want? It's not very fun. 

You can't desperately want to want to believe in people, for instance, because that is a blindness, which then turns into a liability. 

 

Edited 40 minutes ago by eos_nyxia

[LordFall]

33 minutes ago, vibv said:

 

Personally I'm a very logical person and although I'm very intuitive as an INTP, I filter it through my logic or I don't find it helpful in my life. You might have a different experience. 

[Olaf]

@eos_nyxia if the only men you are attracted to are toxic, then being done with men makes sense. I guess, that it is a love hate relationship, they don't appreciate a men who is healthy and mature, then they are gonna stay in toxic relationships or remain single. At some point there has to be somewhat of a shift to look for peace and stability in a relationship instead of the rush of the highs and lows and the chasing, which I think happens for some woman only after the age of 40 or 30, some earlier. Also a level of self respect to not let boundaries be crossed that shouldn't be crossed. Some woman will learn early, some will never learn, others will be hurt too deeply by a narcissist to never go on a date again, who knows. This is the problem I am seeing both in the narcissist and also the codependent, they are both broken and need self respect and love. 

[vibv]

11 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Personally I'm a very logical person and although I'm very intuitive as an INTP, I filter it through my logic or I don't find it helpful in my life. You might have a different experience. 

At one point one has to transcend logic to get to the Higher Truths.