Sri Niagaradasti Enlightenment Story

[Wilhelm44]

13 hours ago, cetus said:

Almost locked this thread but thought, nah, better to keep them at one location so they don't distract the rest of the forum.

This seems a bit over the top to be honest. Nothing illegal happening here 

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, James123 said:

The funny thing is body born for help, some with kind words, some with money wise help, some with curse.

Yet for me, doesn't really fucking matter. Because, You guys are all one. Identical.

But the mask attached with @Leo Gura, @cetus and you @Inliytened1 are wearing spiritual charlatan costumes. Some people even suicide due to reach this bullshit higher consciousness because of @Leo Gura

This is not mine, but body and mind's altercation and reaction to worldy reality. 

But, at the same time I really don't give a fuck.

Edit: actually, you @Inliytened1, you are good person.

 

Thanks you are too.  But please don't blame Gura for the suicides that took place.  That is on them.  And your trusted Jedii Master Phil was here too during that.   So please save that.  We advocate life here.  Love you.

Edited 18 hours ago by Inliytened1

[James123]

20 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

 

Thanks you are too.  But please don't blame Gura for the suicides that took place.  That is on them.  And your trusted Jedii Master Phil was here too during that.   So please save that.  We advocate life here.  Love you.

Edit: Whoever was responsible fuck them, thank you for correcting. 💓 I appreciate.

 

Edited 18 hours ago by James123

[Inliytened1]

12 minutes ago, James123 said:

Edit: Whoever was responsible fuck them, thank you for correcting. 💓 I appreciate.

 

Haha. Anyway back to topic.  

[James123]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Haha. Anyway back to topic.  

The problem with the Phil is denying body or no one is here. I understand why he attributed the fucking bullshit.

[cetus]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

But the mask attached with @Leo Gura, @cetus are wearing spiritual charlatan costumes.

I'm no Grand Wazoo wearing a mystery robe.

 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by cetus

[Mellowmarsh]

15 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

That doesn't mean denying the form because denying the form happen from the form 😅 this is so obvious that makes me sick. Really I can't avoid to react when I read those explanations. 

You are referring to a knowledge known. The knowledge of distinction. And that’s all the mind can do is relate to the apparent distinction. That’s the nature of mind. Therefore, without the distinction of knowledge, for example: the knowledge of ( no form) and ( form) must by definition be recognised as concepts known by distinction, as a process known as mental construction, where by the knowledge of a concept without distinction would be totally meaningless, and totally senseless. So the construction of distinction must be by association, and it’s in the construct of that apparent connection that gives rise to the knowledge of meaning to what would otherwise be totally meaningless. 
 

That’s all that is being pointed to as and through each and every concept heard as knowledge.

What’s actually being pointed to, which you personally seem to be overlooking, is that there’s no separation there between the knowing of something and that something known. Similarly, there’s no separation there between the observation of something and the something observed. That’s the illusion that is being pointed to within the collective spiritual community.

The illusion of the knower and the known being two distinct things separate from one and other is the illusion of separation that’s being pointed to, it’s an illusion that is not there in reality, that’s what knowledge of distinction does , it separates reality into a knower and the known, albeit illusory, because the illusion doesn’t actually exist.
 

Only the absolute is, and the absolute cannot be known to be known without creating an artificial divide of knower and known. So to clarify. The absolute cannot be known , simply because there is only the absolute. No one can know the absolute because no one is the absolute.

 

No one & one are completely and utterly identical, they are one and the same one always and forever, there is no other one.

 

One is never divided, because there’s no other one. Knowledge of opposites, or distinction, is only ever pointing to the illusory nature of the apparent division. No where in these nondual pointers is there being a pointing to this immediate seamless totality as being the illusion mentioned , no, that’s exactly NOT what is being pointed to by the collective spiritual community.

The illusion being pointed to, is the personal claim made by an avatar that the absolute totality can be known by  a “ someone “ no, that’s not what is being pointed to, that is the illusion. Not the pointing itself. The pointing is not pointing to a “ someone “ who knows, because that’s the separation right there, it’s an illusion, that’s not real.

Everything is already the absolute totality, without ever claiming to know it through knowledge. The knowledge of absolute totality is the illusion, and so that’s all knowledge does is point to the illusory nature of knowledge.

 

I don’t think you are personally grasping what is actually being pointed to. No one is denying the sense of a separate self who is identified with knowledge. Again, all that’s being pointed to is that knowledge is the apparent illusory separation that doesn’t actually exist in reality. The pointing is only pointing to that illusory nature of knowledge, not reality itself which is without an illusory story about it.
 

 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

This seems a bit over the top to be honest. Nothing illegal happening here 

Quite right, these actors take themselves way too seriously, but can’t say I blame them for that, else if they didn’t act seriously, probably no one would give them any attention, and would probably most likely walk out of their show, calling it a false shit show. Haha, 😂.

[Wilhelm44]

36 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Quite right, these actors take themselves way too seriously, but can’t say I blame them for that, else if they didn’t act seriously, probably no one would give them any attention, and would probably most likely walk out of their show, calling it a false shit show. Haha, 😂.

[Wilhelm44]

@Mellowmarsh

 

"Only the absolute is, and the absolute cannot be known to be known without creating an artificial divide of knower and known. So to clarify. The absolute cannot be known , simply because there is only the absolute. No one can know the absolute because no one is the absolute.

 

No one & one are completely and utterly identical, they are one and the same one always and forever, there is no other one.

 

One is never divided, because there’s no other one. Knowledge of opposites, or distinction, is only ever pointing to the illusory nature of the apparent division. No where in these nondual pointers is there being a pointing to this immediate seamless totality as being the illusion mentioned , no, that’s exactly NOT what is being pointed to by the collective spiritual community.

The illusion being pointed to, is the personal claim made by an avatar that the absolute totality can be known by  a “ someone “ no, that’s not what is being pointed to, that is the illusion. Not the pointing itself. The pointing is not pointing to a “ someone “ who knows, because that’s the separation right there, it’s an illusion, that’s not real.

Everything is already the absolute totality, without ever claiming to know it through knowledge. The knowledge of absolute totality is the illusion, and so that’s all knowledge does is point to the illusory nature of knowledge."

 

Brilliant explanation, thank you !

 

[Joseph Maynor]

3 hours ago, James123 said:

You guys are all one. Identical.

This stuck out to me.  Interesting.

[Mellowmarsh]

6 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Brilliant explanation, thank you !

It’s never escaped my notice that you’ve always understood with absolute clarity, what is actually being pointed to.
Kudos to you. 👊

[Wilhelm44]

58 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

It’s never escaped my notice that you’ve always understood with absolute clarity, what is actually being pointed to.
Kudos to you. 👊

[Joseph Maynor]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

@Mellowmarsh

 

"Only the absolute is, and the absolute cannot be known to be known without creating an artificial divide of knower and known. So to clarify. The absolute cannot be known , simply because there is only the absolute. No one can know the absolute because no one is the absolute.

 

No one & one are completely and utterly identical, they are one and the same one always and forever, there is no other one.

 

One is never divided, because there’s no other one. Knowledge of opposites, or distinction, is only ever pointing to the illusory nature of the apparent division. No where in these nondual pointers is there being a pointing to this immediate seamless totality as being the illusion mentioned , no, that’s exactly NOT what is being pointed to by the collective spiritual community.

The illusion being pointed to, is the personal claim made by an avatar that the absolute totality can be known by  a “ someone “ no, that’s not what is being pointed to, that is the illusion. Not the pointing itself. The pointing is not pointing to a “ someone “ who knows, because that’s the separation right there, it’s an illusion, that’s not real.

Everything is already the absolute totality, without ever claiming to know it through knowledge. The knowledge of absolute totality is the illusion, and so that’s all knowledge does is point to the illusory nature of knowledge."

 

Brilliant explanation, thank you !

 

This is the position that is attracted to the cannot.  

[Wilhelm44]

11 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is the position that is attracted to the cannot.  

Not sure I understand, what do you mean ?

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Not sure I understand, what do you mean ?

I can!  

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I can!  

You can what ?

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

You can what ?

That didn't go over well lol.  

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

That didn't go over well lol.  

It's Monday, I'm slow

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Wilhelm44 said:

It's Monday, I'm slow

It is simple.  You can.