Sri Niagaradasti Enlightenment Story

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

What is magic? What we don't understand? I would recommend you some serious research and study about physics. Relativity and quantum physics as deep as you can. As you seem seriously interested in the reality, you would find it amazing. Using the IA is let's say, not an absolute mess. You can start with relativity, then Emmy norther, plank, Feynman, Maxwell, etc. The fields theory and how the retardation, the time, arises from the mass. How the relativity is essential for distinctions , and how an universe is a mathematical equation. I would recommend reading Tegmark theories 

Thank you.  You don't think that science might be slightly off when it comes to the deeper mysteries of reality ? 

[Mellowmarsh]

17 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

What I'm pointing is that non duality is essentially mistaken. Mistaken means that closes the mind and doesn't allow or help to the openess to the absolute. 

How is mistaken? Denying what is real and affirming what is an idea. Maybe you don't understand what I'm pointing 

But the point would be: Is your mind and your heart open to the absolute? 

 

There’s no such thing as nonduality, because nonduality is not a thing. Unmistakably.

 

 

[Ajay0]

On 7/17/2026 at 5:37 AM, Someone here said:

I know it’s hard (almost impossible)  for most people to wrap their minds around the notion that the ego itself doesn’t actually exist in physical reality . 
We can speak loosely about overcoming or weakening the ego by spiritual practice like meditation or fasting but in the ultimate Analysis it should be clear there is no ego in the most literal sense possible. The “I” is a thought instead of a physical entity . Whenever the thought “I” arises it comes delayed after the act happens and it claims ownership of thoughts and deeds . The body eats and breathes and sleeps and then the i-thought arises and claims dowership “I slept or I dreamt or I ate etc “

Eloquently and coherently articulated. 

Thank you for this. 

[Mellowmarsh]

57 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

How is mistaken? Denying what is real and affirming what is an idea. Maybe you don't understand what I'm pointing 

You’re doing it again…listen, no one is denying anything.

 

There’s not a personal “someone” denying they exist. The personal “someone” is the illusion. The personal arises and falls away like a cloud. Yes, it exists as a cloud exists, but it has no fixed identity or location. Illusion doesn’t mean nothing ever arises and falls away, because even that is known, in this immediate direct knowing that cannot be known.

 

There is no separate individual and personal you. However you are and I am. The I everyone refers to every time they say it is the formless, attributeless present awareness we all are at our core.

[VeganAwake]

It's incredibly shocking just how rarely this "self illusion" is seen through.

It's endlessly needy, never becomes satisfied and uses a ridiculous amount of energy to uphold.

The body will literally be flopping on the ground, tapping out, and it's like: "seek seek seek" "more more more" "answers around the next corner, I can feel it" ♻️ 

The most stubborn is when it truly believes it already knows (spiritual ego)..........it's a real bitch to see through!

The NSE...........Narcissistic Spiritual Ego 🤣

[Mellowmarsh]

@VeganAwake On point. 👊

 

The moment reality is defined, it becomes something shaped by the concepts used to describe it.  From transparency to opaque. 

[Wilhelm44]

14 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I just say God is the everything without an identity. The everything that’s infinitely unfolding from within and out of itself, it’s only self, as in the spider and the web analogy. That’s how I personally interpret God.
 

I have no idea what God is being seen for someone who has used psychedelics to reach God realisation, because that’s never been my personal experience. 

Personally, I believe we’re each our own universe, and never the Twain shall meet. When two universes collide, in my opinion they become one universe together. Or something like that, it’s just how I’m able to describe the way I see it.

 

Its going to be different for each individual universe, obviously. When I say individual, I mean different strands of the same infinite web. 
 

 

I was just thinking, it would be a bit strange if reality worked such, that you were only allowed access to God, if you took psychedelics.

God is powerful enough to 'return' itself to itself, through the Grace of God itself.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[VeganAwake]

30 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The moment reality is defined, it becomes something shaped by the concepts used to describe it.  From transparency to opaque. 

Yup, and conceptual thoughts only SEEM to shape and describe it.

But it's always only what it is, regardless of thoughts and concepts about it. 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Thank you.  You don't think that science might be slightly off when it comes to the deeper mysteries of reality ? 

Science never claims that they know what the reality ultimately is. They try to understand how the reality works in this universe, but any serious scientist would admit that they don't know nothing, just some properties of this universe 

The point is that when you start to understand how this reality works , relativity, quantum physics, you start to perceive the pattern, the intelligence that any relationship intrinsic is.

It's not that intelligence creates relationships, but rather that relationships are intelligence.

Edited 6 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Science never claims that they know what the reality ultimately is. They try to understand how the reality works in this universe, but any serious scientist would admit that they don't know nothing, just some properties of this universe 

The point is that when you start to understand how this reality works , relativity, quantum physics, you start to perceive the pattern, the intelligence that any relationship intrinsic is.

It's not that intelligence creates relationships, but rather that relationships are intelligence.

Yeah, it's interesting to note that a little over a hundred years ago, quantum physics wasn't even a thing. Would be fascinating to see what science will be saying about reality another hundred years from now. Maybe some pattern interrupts on the way.

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Yeah, it's interesting to note that a little over a hundred years ago, quantum physics wasn't even a thing. Would be fascinating to see what science will be saying about reality another hundred years from now. Maybe some pattern interrupts on the way.

If you do a little research on physics and how the physicists arrived at their conclusions through mathematical logic, you see how strange it is that the human mind can understand the laws and equations that define reality, but then you realize that everything that exists is relational, and mathematical logic is relation.

The human mind evolved for hunting in groups and all that; the brain of a scientist is the same as that of a Paleolithic guy, and this mind can accurately understand quantum superposition, for example. 

[Breakingthewall]

On 17/7/2026 at 2:07 AM, Someone here said:

know it’s hard (almost impossible)  for most people to wrap their minds around the notion that the ego itself doesn’t actually exist in physical reality . 
We can speak loosely about overcoming or weakening the ego by spiritual practice like meditation or fasting but in the ultimate Analysis it should be clear there is no ego in the most literal sense possible. The “I” is a thought instead of a physical entity

That's wrong and this is the obvious mistake of all spirituality kind Tolle, Ralston, etc. The ego is built upon real evolutionary structures, neural pathways created in deep time.

For example, if your parents reject you, your system creates a persistent structure that translates into suffering. Why? If a tuna is rejected by its parents, it doesn't matter, nor does a severely autistic child. They don't even grasp the idea.

The entire ego is a edifice built upon evolutionary pillars created for group cohesion. And the suffering that occurs because of this is real: your cortisol levels rise, your defenses weaken, cognitive functions are blocked. You can even die. Psychological suffering is not an illusion, that's very simplistic vision. Suffering is suffering, and it's always a signal to produce movement, change. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Mellowmarsh]

6 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I was just thinking, it would be a bit strange if reality worked such, that you were only allowed access to God, if you took psychedelics.

God is powerful enough to 'return' itself to itself, through the Grace of God itself.

 

I like the way you think dude. 

For me personally, I give myself the permission to know my own God.My way, and that’s that. 😎

 

 

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

The human mind evolved for hunting in groups and all that; the brain of a scientist is the same as that of a Paleolithic guy, and this mind can accurately understand quantum superposition, for example. 

I'm not denying the intelligence of evolution or the marvels of the brain.

What I am saying is that every day now it's becoming more obvious to me that it's an illusion that there's an actual entity in there called Wilhelm who's somehow the controller.

Edited 1 hour ago by Wilhelm44

[Wilhelm44]

23 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

For me personally, I give myself the permission to know my own God.My way, and that’s that. 😎

Bingo

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I'm not denying the intelligence of evolution or the marvels of the brain.

What I am saying is that every day now it's more obvious to me that it's an illusion that there's an actual entity in there called Wilhelm who's somehow the controller.

Exactly!

Your brain tricks you into believing you have a permanent, solid "core self" behind your eyes. In reality, your brain is constantly recreating your identity from moment to moment from one thought to another, then another and another ad infinitum. Call it evolution, it’s how you believed you got here in the first place. 3 million years ago is the same place as right here and now, similarly, 3 million years into the future is the same place as right here and now, because only the eternal present is ever known to be real. 

The “named thought one”is only a story of “I” , not real, with no director, no screen, and no audience. 
There’s something beyond that, that’s always present,that something is not a finite named thing, the present is infinite, it’s the beloved, the unnamed one , the unchanging one, the uncaused one, the unmoved one.
One is One, and no other. This is it.

[Wilhelm44]

16 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Your brain tricks you into believing you have a permanent, solid "core self" behind your eyes. In reality, your brain is constantly recreating your identity from moment to moment from one thought to another, then another and another ad infinitum. Call it evolution, it’s how you believed you got here in the first place. 3 million years ago is the same place as right here and now, similarly, 3 million years into the future is the same place as right here and now, because only the eternal present is ever known to be real. 

Wow, thanks !

[Wilhelm44]

16 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The “named thought one”is only a story of “I” , not real, with no director, no screen, and no audience. 
There’s something beyond that, that’s always present,that something is not a finite named thing, the present is infinite, it’s the beloved, the unnamed one , the unchanging one, the uncaused one, the unmoved one.
One is One, and no other. This is it.

Please can you say something about how your daily experience of life has changed since the sense of separate self 'fell away' ?

Like practical functioning , social interactions etc ?

[Mellowmarsh]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

They don't even grasp the idea.

This idea is never grasped. The idea is simply known, directly. The known is a mental fabrication. A mental fabrication is never physically seen. Therefore that which is known, knows nothing. 

[Mellowmarsh]

14 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Please can you say something about how your daily experience of life has changed since the sense of separate self 'fell away' ?

Like practical functioning , social interactions etc ?

My daily experience of life hasn’t changed one iota. The only change is an apparent recognition that reality is not what thought thinks it is, rather, it whatever it is, is not limited by what thought thinks it is, rather it’s a liberation from limitation it’s the entry into the infinite.

I am infinity knowing a finite experience. Not a finite experience knowing it’s infinite.

Edited just now by Mellowmarsh