Sri Niagaradasti Enlightenment Story

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

No. Only, attachment to thoughts doesn't happen, thoughts, feelings arises and falls. Thats all. 

Body has it's own destiny, what will happen, will happen.

Of course behavior goes through a refinement/purification process.

I'm not saying you become perfect, but there's definitely a change.

Certain things don't piss you off as much as they once did.

Consequently you're able to be kinder to people etc.

Things become lighter.

If there's no change, how will Love express itself through you in ever expanding ways ?

[Breakingthewall]

56 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

But yeah I'm not saying we should deny ourselves human connection. I do think the whole purpose thing is transcended eventually. Which is why you'll here teachers like Adyashanti say, there's just no agenda with him.

Adyashanti has been working very hard as a teacher and writer.

I think that human being always aims in a certain direction. Look at Buddha; he attained enlightenment and then founded a monastery, a school, his life had a purpose , a vector. Life is always evolutionary, never static.

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Adyashanti has been working very hard as a teacher and writer.

I think that human being always aims in a certain direction. Look at Buddha; he attained enlightenment and then founded a monastery, a school, his life had a purpose , a vector. Life is always evolutionary, never static.

The point is Adyashanti wouldn't get depressed if he stopped teaching tomoro.

He's not dependent on some sense of purpose.

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

The point is Adyashanti wouldn't get depressed if he stopped teaching tomoro.

He's not dependent on some sense of purpose.

Then why is he working hard? Im not saying that he's working to build a character, that's stupid in anyone, but any life without direction or purpose feels sterile. You can live without it if there is no choice but if you can you will expand yourself, evolve, help others to evolve, I think that's the nature of life. 

[Wilhelm44]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then why is he working hard? Im not saying that he's working to build a character, that's stupid in anyone, but any life without direction or purpose feels sterile. You can live without it if there is no choice but if you can you will expand yourself, evolve, help others to evolve, I think that's the nature of life. 

It is interesting though, that if AI eventually lives up to it's full potential and nobody has to work anymore, then people will need to deal with that.

What you ultimately are has no direction or purpose as such. Yet it is unconditional freedom, unconditional love, infinite beauty, already.

[James123]

31 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Of course behavior goes through a refinement/purification process.

I'm not saying you become perfect, but there's definitely a change.

Certain things don't piss you off as much as they once did.

Consequently you're able to be kinder to people etc.

Things become lighter.

If there's no change, how will Love express itself through you in ever expanding ways ?

Forget the love. 

Love is simply Being what You already are. Not expression of kindness or saying I love you.

Kindness or anger is the action of the yhe body.

Yet, you are right in this. Anger is not hold or sadness, but as happiness. 

Emotions, feelings are like clouds. Sky never changes. 

And definitely, lightness of the body and Being Free. 

Totally Free. No expectation whatsoever, therefore no future, nor past.

[Breakingthewall]

40 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

It is interesting though, that if AI eventually lives up to it's full potential and nobody has to work anymore, then people will need to deal with that.

What you ultimately are has no direction or purpose as such. Yet it is unconditional freedom, unconditional love, infinite beauty, already.

58 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

 

Maybe that's what we are in essence, but our actual manifestation is an evolving being with a brutal, dynamic drive.

maybe in the AI era, humans as we know them will no longer exist. The possibilities are enormous. Would be interesting to see it

[Wilhelm44]

44 minutes ago, James123 said:

Forget the love. 

Love is simply Being what You already are. Not expression of kindness or saying I love you.

Kindness or anger is the action of the yhe body.

Yet, you are right in this. Anger is not hold or sadness, but as happiness. 

Emotions, feelings are like clouds. Sky never changes. 

And definitely, lightness of the body and Being Free. 

Totally Free. No expectation whatsoever, therefore no future, nor past.

Beautiful

[Wilhelm44]

17 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Maybe that's what we are in essence, but our actual manifestation is an evolving being with a brutal, dynamic drive.

I like that, thank you.

[Breakingthewall]

The ego is truly just an adaptive survival mechanism. Every animal is perfectly adapted to its environment; things are clear and haven't changed in millennia. For a human, the jungle is society in constant flux and perpetual friction. The price is contraction and suffering, the benefit is accelerated evolution to unprecedented levels.

Spirituality tells you: all of that is illusion, stop, do nothing, you already are everything. All the while, you are fed by those running on the wheel. It would be interesting to see what would happen if they had to survive without help; perhaps the illusion would seem real. 

Imo the real point is not "transcend" the ego but align the ego. Denying the ego is just evasion because the ego is not a mistake. Thinking that the ego is a mistake is going against the flow. .

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[Wilhelm44]

16 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

align the ego

Can you say a bit more about this please ?

[James123]

19 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The ego is truly just an adaptive survival mechanism. Every animal is perfectly adapted to its environment; things are clear and haven't changed in millennia. For a human, the jungle is society in constant flux and perpetual friction. The price is contraction and suffering, the benefit is accelerated evolution to unprecedented levels.

Spirituality tells you: all of that is illusion, stop, do nothing, you already are everything. All the while, you are fed by those running on the wheel. It would be interesting to see what would happen if they had to survive without help; perhaps the illusion would seem real. 

Imo the real point is not "transcend" the ego but align the ego. Denying the ego is just evasion because the ego is not a mistake. Thinking that the ego is a mistake is going against the flow. .

😂 😂 😂 

Spirituality tells you are not the body and mind. 

I definitely respect everyones ideas and beliefs here.

But you have literally no idea wtf you are talking about, mind is all over you.

And still try to preach? Fantastic.

[gettoefl]

57 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The ego is truly just an adaptive survival mechanism. Every animal is perfectly adapted to its environment; things are clear and haven't changed in millennia. For a human, the jungle is society in constant flux and perpetual friction. The price is contraction and suffering, the benefit is accelerated evolution to unprecedented levels.

Spirituality tells you: all of that is illusion, stop, do nothing, you already are everything. All the while, you are fed by those running on the wheel. It would be interesting to see what would happen if they had to survive without help; perhaps the illusion would seem real. 

Imo the real point is not "transcend" the ego but align the ego. Denying the ego is just evasion because the ego is not a mistake. Thinking that the ego is a mistake is going against the flow. .

Human purpose is to be able to escape here at will. This is the spiritual work. As you yourself know, this is absolutely possible. This is known as dying before you die. After that you as body can do whatever you want. And what you want will align with love since you know the truth. You will live a happy dream henceforth in which you are undisturbed and untroubled. You chose correctly between peace and pain, once and for all. And when the body breathes its last, you will remain as you always were. 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

48 minutes ago, James123 said:

😂 😂 😂 

Spirituality tells you are not the body and mind. 

I definitely respect everyones ideas and beliefs here.

But you have literally no idea wtf you are talking about, mind is all over you.

And still try to preach? Fantastic.

Do you see how mind factors into what you say?

[James123]

13 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Do you see how mind factors into what you say?

Show, or just shut up