Women are attracted to emotional guys

[Schizophonia]

4 minutes ago, Ulax said:

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If you mean that what is high-value in the context of female attraction isn't an objective status signal for men, then I agree. Whenever I say high-value guy I mean it in the context of what female attraction regards as a high-value guy.

I meant there are notions of value that tend to recur like money or beauty but high value depends a lot on the girl and her persona.

You might be boring to one woman and too intense for another and so on.

[Ulax]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course. Because women are emotional creatures. They don't care about anything else.

But still. They are attracted to raw masculinity too. They will sleep with stone-cold men just because of the masculine vibes. But then later they will regret it because that stone-cold guy will not be capable of intimacy, which she truly craves.

Who women sleep with and who they stay with are different things. They will sleep with a Terminator but he's not boyfriend material.

Women are looking for a paradox: a stone-cold guy who is also very intimate and emotionally stimulating.

I get what you're saying about women being emotional creatures. 

However, I'd push back on them not caring about anything else. Because what causes them to be highly emotional in a way that leads to sex is perceiving a guy as high-value and trusting him (enough). So, really the emotions are a consequence of the image she has of the guy in her mind. 

[Ulax]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

I meant there are notions of value that tend to recur like money or beauty but high value depends a lot on the girl and her persona.

You might be boring to one woman and too intense for another and so on.

I agree. That's why I included the life experiences/ social conditioning parts in my description of high-value. I'll also add present life circumstances too. For example, that will affect her mood. So, high-value to her could change day to day. But the core of what counts as high-value will always be there.

[Ulax]

37 minutes ago, Raze said:

Except they’d be more likely to sleep with the emotional guy and regret it because he’s exiting but unpredictable. The masculine guy would be more logical and mature.

Pick up theory would push agree with the more likely to sleep with part but disagree with the it being more mature part.

Because it says women psychology has 3 camps for men. Non-sex worthy, provider, lover. Non-sex worthy is rejection. Provider is highest value guy i can get who will actually protect me and raise kids well. Lover is the best genetics guy, idea being she could get his genes and then get the provider to raise the kids.

She's more likely to sleep with lover because she just wants bro's genes. But in terms of mating strategy its not necessarily immature for her to sleep with the lover category guy because she gets the good genes she was after from the lover.

This theory is also in the book Sperm Wars.

[Schizophonia]

10 minutes ago, Ulax said:

I agree. That's why I included the life experiences/ social conditioning parts in my description of high-value. I'll also add present life circumstances too.

For example, that will affect her mood. So, high-value to her could change day to day. But the core of what counts as high-value will always be there.

 

What most strongly generates vibes of social dominance (and thus charisma) is authenticity.

If one is prepared to be polarizing—because one is rejected by people with different survival strategies...

Indeed, women's moods vary significantly depending on the time and their hormonal fluctuations.

 

The other day I was talking to a colleague whose best friend decided on a whim to stop speaking to her, simply because she was frustrated with her romantic relationship.

Lol women.

takes a sip of beer

[Leo Gura]

High value according to what women need to survive.

Women are not so original that they all need something different to survive. They all need the same basic things, which is why they chase after the same top guys.

Figure out what women need to survive that they can't provide for themselves and you will know what they're attracted to. Nothing creative is going on here.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Ulax]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

 

What most strongly generates vibes of social dominance (and thus charisma) is authenticity.

If one is prepared to be polarizing—because one is rejected by people with different survival strategies...

Indeed, women's moods vary significantly depending on the time and their hormonal fluctuations.

 

The other day I was talking to a colleague whose best friend decided on a whim to stop speaking to her, simply because she was frustrated with her romantic relationship.

Lol women.

takes a sip of beer

I would moderately agree with that. Social dominance is definitely a core high-value trait for women, and being prepared to be polarising is more likely to lead to attraction.

The disagreement is that the value provided by the authenticity can also be undermined if the authenticity implies a non-high value trait. For example, if i tell a girl "I love being homeless. Its great." (assuming she doesnt think im joking) you'll get value from being able to go against social norms (implies you're strong enough to do so, or have had positive experiences doing so in past). But you'll lower your value because of how she likely perceives being homeless (incompetent, low social status). So, I'd say being authentic from a place of high-value is much more effective.

Also, a minor one is its about her perception that you are prepared to be polarising, not that you prepared to be polarising. 

[Schizophonia]

26 minutes ago, Ulax said:

I would moderately agree with that. Social dominance is definitely a core high-value trait for women, and being prepared to be polarising is more likely to lead to attraction.

The disagreement is that the value provided by the authenticity can also be undermined if the authenticity implies a non-high value trait. For example, if i tell a girl "I love being homeless. Its great." (assuming she doesnt think im joking) you'll get value from being able to go against social norms (implies you're strong enough to do so, or have had positive experiences doing so in past). But you'll lower your value because of how she likely perceives being homeless (incompetent, low social status). So, I'd say being authentic from a place of high-value is much more effective.

Also, a minor one is its about her perception that you are prepared to be polarising, not that you prepared to be polarising. 

You’ll gain value in the eyes of girls who like being homeless (yes that’s a thing I’ve actually seen one lol) but lose it with those who have a different survival strategy, who are in an opposed egregor.

But you aren’t actually attractive if you’re lukewarm, try to please everyone more or less; you basically end up simping lol. So you might as well be polarizing.

[AION]

A lot of very rational approaches to an un-rational sex in this thread. Most women don’t chase what they need in terms of survival. That is why a lot of the times  they choose the wrong guys.
 

Women don’t chose rational since sex is not a rational thing for them.  Women chose based on their unresolved shadow material!! So basically you have to play mind games. 
 

In this thread there a lot of good posts but all of them leave out how important the age of a women is and how that influences her decision making which is a second thing. 

Edited 43 minutes ago by AION

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, AION said:

Most women don’t chase what they need in terms of survival. That is why a lot of the times  they choose the wrong guys.

Animals are easy to trap. A mouse chases cheese and gets itself trapped.

Being hard to trap requires consciousness. Which women are not at all applying to dating.

Edited 39 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[AION]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Animals are easy to trap. A mouse chases cheese and gets itself trapped.

Being hard to trap requires consciousness. Which women are not at all applying to dating.

In that case this forum is a rat forum because any time I bless this forum with my words I get angry warning or angry mods of some sort.