Fall of clavicular, is this the end of looksmaxxing?

[Raze]

Clavicular made a name for himself spreading blackpill beliefs, but his recent bender showed him getting rejected and failing in business

Could this discredit looksmaxxers enough to stop the movement, which has been skyrocketing recently 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

He was a huge hardmaxxer - I think that portion of the movement may die. Then the rest will unravel.

As we age, if we learn the lessons of life and gain wisdom, we realise how foolish cementing attachment to appearance and transient material shit really is.

I predict most people will simply... grow up  

[Leo Gura]

I am worried that he will end up like Connor Murphy without a serious intervention.

These social media antics turn deadly. Being a dancing monkey for social media fame is very toxic to the mind.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Monster Energy]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

I am worried that he will end up like Connor Murphy without a serious intervention.

These social media antics turn deadly. Being a dancing monkey for social media fame is very toxic to the mind.

I don’t think Clav will make it through the next three years if he doesn’t get professional help and experience a spiritual awakening where he realizes that he is God.

 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

where he realizes that he is God

That is way beyond him.

God is not a magic cure. God is more like the final fruit of a life properly lived.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Monster Energy]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That is way beyond him.

God is not a magic cure. God is more like the final fruit of a life properly lived.

But who decided the fruit can’t appear in the middle of the storm?

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Monster Energy

[LordFall]

Hopefully he has some good influences around him but he would have a hard time being more up in life than he is now. By getting rejecting in Paris he will hopefully learn some proper game and learn to laugh at himself. With his community clowning him for his nose hopefully he'll learn to not value outside opinions too much. He is literally 20 years old, getting scammed out of a business deal at this age when you're rolling in dough(he apparently makes $14k a day) is a blessing in disguise to teach you how proper business works and to not trust people naively. 

He should hang out more with Michael Sartain and do a business partnership and he'll be more than fine. He's very silly for keep trying hard drugs to be extroverted in public, he just go on an Owen bootcamp and realize that normies don't really talk about anything interesting that's sort of the point killing yourself to fit in is insanity. 

I was hoping that his experience with New York Fashion Week would rid him of his blackpill tendencies but it's hard when your ideology becomes your living. Interestingly when you hangout with models you realize they are just people and a lot of them are autistic too so this whole worldview of incels being rejected by society due to being fundamentally unlovable is very silly. It makes me sad that people still are stuck with this. 

It's crazy that he seems to try every drug under the sun except psychedelics. I think one trip would change his life big time. He seems to be an honest dude and he's quite open with his bizarre thoughts and protocol, it's just the deep self-love for himself and reality that he lacks.

Edited 3 hours ago by LordFall

[Leo Gura]

Clav is the walking definition of toxic masculinity, but is too immature to see it.

I can't beleive this is what attracting girls has devolved into.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Clav is the walking definition of toxic masculinity, but is too immature to see it.

I can't beleive this is what attracting girls has devolved into.

From what I have seen it appears like a mix of clout chasers / full blown rejections (ick mode).

But Clav consistently reports he doesn't even want women "too much effort for ROI".

He even when so far as to say he doesn't even get them off because ROI not worth 

This is what is popular these days...

I don't even feel like a women compared to the girls he attracts. They are like a different species to me.

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

But Clav consistently reports he doesn't even want women

Every word out of his mouth that I have heard is BS.

He is an inscure child, drunk on fame and success.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Leo Gura He is a tadpole, so he probably has no idea what he wants 

[Elliott]

The Gen Z and A kids I'm around are the most down to earth counter culture of any generation, I don't understand how looksmaxing isn't just a niche.

 

The guy is probably gay, he looks gay. Look at his eyebrows, i dont know what the term is but it looks like he plucked them narrow, this is submissive. He probably leads Looksmaxing so guys compliment him.

 

 

 

This guy looks super gay

Edited 56 minutes ago by Elliott

[gengar]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Clav is the walking definition of toxic masculinity, but is too immature to see it.

I can't beleive this is what attracting girls has devolved into.

It's the natural result of the sexual revolution. Contemplate on how it couldn't have gone any other way.

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, gengar said:

It's the natural result of the sexual revolution. Contemplate on how it couldn't have gone any other way.

I don't see why sexual liberation needs to be this foolish.

Good dating advice is readily available. We had better dating advice in 2011.

Edited 42 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[gengar]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

I don't see why sexual liberation needs to be this foolish.

You've said it yourself many times. The most attractive young women pick out the biggest fools and narcissists. It's an incentive structure with winners and losers that shape the world in a certain way.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, gengar said:

The most attractive young women pick out the biggest fools and narcissists.

Clav's game is so cringe that it invalidates that claim

Even the most foolish women smell his cringe from around the corner.

The only way he is gonna get women is by paying them. Which will make him more insecure, ending in a downward spiral.

Edited 37 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[Hojo]

Men have tell when they are thinking about something while talking. 

A woman can see it gives the same tell, like you are lying to them.

The best way for a man to be while talking to people or ever is empty mind.

You cant do that when you are looksmaxxing.

If you do it when you talk to woman you will be thinking if all your struggles will work and if they reject you will be thinking about what happened. Its just a fucked up loop over and over again.

All men fall into this trap but some dont leave.

Plus if he is autistic then he wont ever have a good time partying as he is very sensitive to energies.

He will have to get super shit faced to feel good and then he will do something stupid.

 

Autistic sensitivity to energies are like sitting in your house and you notice your neighbour closed their front door. When you are around others partying you are totally buzzed out and cant function. And you cant think about what to say as you are constantly relating yourself to energies you are feeling.

Edited 27 minutes ago by Hojo

[gengar]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Clav's game is so cringe that it invalidates that claim

Even attractive women smell his cringe.

I don't see how it invalidates the claim of foolishness and narcissism being incentivized, since he embodies both. It only strengthens my point that "game" isn't all what it is. Sure, if he had better game he would do a lot better, but the fact he even got this far with his horrible personality shows that many women don't give a fuck about whether you're a "cool" or "good" man in the David Deida sense. 

A narcissist dude in my city that was known for robbing drug dealers slept with the wife of a famous European football player, in their own house. And I know this from a close source. Finding out that fact made my faith in humanity and women in particular take a huge hit. I never liked your characterization of humans as rats but I've come to find out there's no better comparison than that.

[BlessedLion]

Looksmaxxing is the male version of annorexia and i blame social media. Guys think they need to look like 6 foot chads with chiseled jaws to attract, when that is only a small fraction of what attracts  

[gengar]

1 minute ago, BlessedLion said:

Looksmaxxing is the male version of annorexia and i blame social media. Guys think they need to look like 6 foot chads with chiseled jaws to attract, when that is only a small fraction of what attracts  

Only a small fraction of men attract to begin with, and the science agrees:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/politics-and-the-life-sciences/article/toward-individualistic-reproduction-solving-the-fertility-crisis-could-require-a-further-marginalization-of-men/F26A4750B666344157278B72CFC5D223