you can´t buy love

[Olaf]

So I had some insight yesterday, that made me cry. Now I know this is all obvious to most of you here, but due to being brainwashed by society, I kinda forgot. So I was thinking about how truly special love is. Like think about it. For someone to fall in love with or someone to fall in love with you. I might be on a hippy emotional phase or something hahaha, but listen. To have someone love you is like having a billion dollars. Because even Bill Gates can´t buy love with his billions. Imagine being Bill Gates, do you think any woman loves this nerd solely for him? In fact, his money made him more of a nerd and made it only harder for him to actually get in touch with love.

Then some stupid broke retard can have a woman who actually love him. Since when has being a nerd ever worked on being attractive to women? If men get together, we are retards, laughing and doing dumb shit. Look at football games, we are like the biggest retards together, nothing intelligent about it. But a woman would actually love that retard, while this rich nerd would never even know, never even grasp what it means to love or to be loved. I was thinking back on my first relationship, I felt like she really, really loved me, which is special, like a billion euro's can't buy that not even a trillion like Elon Musk.

This is why what Owen teaches about looks and money not mattering, is because you are optimizing for lust. Optimizing for the lust of money or the lust for your body, which isn't love. Okay imagine some grandma, wanting to get laid with you, because you look pretty. This is basically what looksmaxxing is. You're trying to buy love with looks or buy love with money, which both can't do it. They only give you access and leverage to superficial relationships, not deep love.

I never got sobby about love like this in years hahaha, but just appreciating the fact how special love is, made me cry and needed to share it somewhere. Maybe someone got something out of this. 

[LordFall]

If this way of thinking about it helps you then more power to you. You can definitely buy love though, you picked bad examples but these men have had plenty of love in their lives being successful business men is not the reason that they have relationship issues. Money buys you free time to spend more time with the people you love, is that not buying love? Money buys you the ability to free the people you love from forced labor, is that not buying love? 

I would also personally define love in more broad terms like enjoyment of life and obviously you can do that. One of my best friends for his own 30th birthday booked our whole friend group a mountain hike and accommodations for a weekend and we had a blast. I would not have been able to afford it at that point and neither could some of the other guys. I definitely love him for that it was a great time and I'm glad we got to celebrate his birthday with him in a special way. He could only do that because he has a well paying tech sales job.

Absolutely enjoy the love my friend but the demonization of money is where the source of a lot of limiting beliefs and pain comes from.

[Olaf]

@LordFall money is something, definitely not everything. My intention wasn't to demonize money, but rather to share my insight into love and its unique and rare value. You can't buy a romantic partner, to make a girl fall in love with you. Sure love in the sense of selfless service is something else. I could donate money to a charity or buy a gift for a friend, but that is not the romantic love I was talking about. 

[LordFall]

That makes sense, we each have our way of understanding love. I personally like the Helen Fisher model which separates the romantic love into three parts: lust, attraction and attachment. Looksmaxxing helps mostly in lust and attraction and the money part in attraction and attachment. 

I find the idea that money doesn't matter to deep love to be deeply misguided. Financial issues rank always in the top 2-5 reasons for divorce with whatever survey is replicated. Money is not superficial it's very deep. It's how you impact the world as a whole, how your skillset impacts other humans, how you're able to get over your mental blocks to serve your fellow humans better.

Being financially independent is one of the best gifts you can give your potential partners and a journey I work on daily and I recommend each one of us here prioritize. 

[Hojo]

You also cant earn it, and you cant keep it. There is a massive paradox with love I am learning with this post.

If someone truly loved you there is nothing you can do about it at all. You cant buy it you cant earn it you cant do anything with it but let it happen.

You cant change even if it hurts the person who loves you you can only hope their love is unconditional, survival stops this.

The best thing you can do for love is delete yourself and then ask the person what are you loving.

Edited 8 hours ago by Hojo

[Leo Gura]

Well, God is priceless.

[Olaf]

@Hojo yes you can´t earn it, this is why sometimes players can play themself and therefore never get in touch with love. You can play too much and then miss the opportunity for real love. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

How are you thinking about the concept of love here, as a definition? 

...before I run in with my own rap and knowledge of love 😃

[JJfromSwitzerland]

That's what I'm trying to say but these guys here are so much focused on their theories and pick up bs and will deny what you wrote. I've experience true romantic love from women and I don't have high status or money or anything like that...

[Olaf]

@JJfromSwitzerland Yes and count yourself blessed if you have, many people will never have known that type of love. 

[Olaf]

@Natasha Tori Maru okay I was purely focused on relationship/romantic love. Not about the love for God or love for friends and family etc.