Better then Cold Approach

[LordFall]

On 7/1/2026 at 2:52 PM, Ulax said:

I get you bro. Its very understandable to skeptical of Pickup. It sounds like the biggest fucking scam of all time. "Yes, every dude can get game so good they can date the hottest models." and then you think of the dude from high school who used to lick windows and you think yeah fucking right lmao.

But a lot of this shit makes a big difference in my experience. And you have "Aha!" moments. For example, loads of dudes think ok the girl is deciding whether to choose me or not, i better impress her. But with pick up you can flip that on its head and instead YOU become the decider, where she is trying to impress you. And then its a whole different ball game. 

Cold approach was apparently a lot easier before in the 90s and the 2000s. It's still doable but now more than ever you need status, social circle, etc to get the hottest women. It's partly because of the financial crisis that reduced the income of people and made the average man less attractive as a mate and also the advent of social media that globalized the dating scene that created a situation where now I can run an IG story and instantly women that I know in different cities in the country think of me as opposed to the dudes they have access to. It rewards increased effort and makes laziness even more deadly in dating. 

[Joseph Maynor]

Is the inverse of cold approach where you don't even try and people approach you for conversation?

[Oppositionless]

Get a dog or learn how to play a musical instrument haha

[Ulax]

9 hours ago, LordFall said:

Cold approach was apparently a lot easier before in the 90s and the 2000s. It's still doable but now more than ever you need status, social circle, etc to get the hottest women. It's partly because of the financial crisis that reduced the income of people and made the average man less attractive as a mate and also the advent of social media that globalized the dating scene that created a situation where now I can run an IG story and instantly women that I know in different cities in the country think of me as opposed to the dudes they have access to. It rewards increased effort and makes laziness even more deadly in dating. 

That makes some sense to me. For example, in 2000s a girl had the options of her social circle or whoever approached her. But now she has that plus the whole of fucking instagram. So, her options are much higher.

However, if it is harder to get hotter girls via cold approach today, I suspect another likely reason is due to where a lot of game is today. Nowadays a lot of game is more natural and less technical. But I suspect the technical game was helpful with the hottest girls because it would allow for value adjusters like dis-qualifiers. Said value adjusters could switch the balance of perceived value in the interaction better. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Ulax

[integral]

12 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Is the inverse of cold approach where you don't even try and people approach you for conversation?

Yes thats what i was talking about. hot escape. 🏃

You make yourself as interesting as possible and make them run after you. 

Edited 59 minutes ago by integral