Better then Cold Approach

[aurum]

9 hours ago, integral said:

Well with your skills go to a public places and do some dancing, play musical instrument, just chat people up, but the point is you're not there to get laid you're there to have fun doing what you want to do naturally and then you build a network.

Yeah but that's not necessarily actually better. It depends on how good your setup is.

Cold approach is nice because you can set the right frame immediately and just go for what you want.

Direct / indirect approaches both have tradeoffs.

[integral]

4 hours ago, aurum said:

Yeah but that's not necessarily actually better. It depends on how good your setup is.

Cold approach is nice because you can set the right frame immediately and just go for what you want.

Direct / indirect approaches both have tradeoffs.

But are the results people get from cold approach alone as good as what I'm describing?

And if it is, is it because a person has qualities that make them good at cold approach?

I feel like one size doesn't fit all

[Valach]

7 minutes ago, integral said:

But are the results people get from cold approach alone as good as what I'm describing?

And if it is, is it because a person has qualities that make them good at cold approach?

I feel like one size doesn't fit all

I often share my critics on the forum about cold approach pickup. But a somewhat experienced guys gets results that are unimaginable for an average guy. 

[Ulax]

18 minutes ago, integral said:

But are the results people get from cold approach alone as good as what I'm describing?

And if it is, is it because a person has qualities that make them good at cold approach?

I feel like one size doesn't fit all

My bruddah i think the advanced pickup dudes are... ever so slightly... outperforming your slacklining results  

[integral]

34 minutes ago, Valach said:

I often share my critics on the forum about cold approach pickup. But a somewhat experienced guys gets results that are unimaginable for an average guy. 

22 minutes ago, Ulax said:

My bruddah i think the advanced pickup dudes are... ever so slightly... outperforming your slacklining results  

LMFAO I'm sure they are, I don't know how much of what they're doing is skill vs other ascpects like natural personality.

I Don't know if one size fits all.

The pick up cold approach fantasy doesn't feel like it works for a lot of different types of people, to unnatural to them

Edited 6 hours ago by integral

[integral]

@LordFall do you have a link to a map of cold approach?

One of the resources that you linked previously was pretty good on pick up, but im looking for a map of cold approach strategies all in one place. 

[integral]

https://youtu.be/07TNr9EtksE?si=lBnFOHJVRwa1YUe-

This guy seems legit

[integral]

The biggest problem with approaching people is you dont really want to talk to them

I want to talk to people i actually want to talk to. 🤯

[Valach]

1 minute ago, integral said:

The biggest problem with approaching people is you dont really want to talk to them

I want to talk to people i actually want to talk to. 🤯

Yeah, that is my issue as well.

[LordFall]

33 minutes ago, integral said:

@LordFall do you have a link to a map of cold approach?

One of the resources that you linked previously was pretty good on pick up, but im looking for a map of cold approach strategies all in one place. 

Not off the top of my head. Problem with cold approach is people don’t do it usually or that it’s too much effort to do. Some guys do it a lot with little results then I would say it’s a feedback and coaching issue. Mileage varies but is pretty consistent I’d say. I like your post though my philosophy is throw everything at the wall until you like what sticks so why not incorporate fitness and group activities. 

[Valach]

21 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Not off the top of my head. Problem with cold approach is people don’t do it usually or that it’s too much effort to do. Some guys do it a lot with little results then I would say it’s a feedback and coaching issue. Mileage varies but is pretty consistent I’d say. I like your post though my philosophy is throw everything at the wall until you like what sticks so why not incorporate fitness and group activities. 

The issue with man that really struggled even after putting in a lot of effort is simply due to lot of unresolved trauma they carry in their bodies all the time. You are not gonna out-approach that shit.

[Miguel1]

Results in cold approaching is mostly inner game.

If traumas run you deeply, it is impossible to behave confidently and congruently.

At the same time, smaller form of twisted trauma can get you crazy results, if it makes you deeply manipulative and desire validation and success to overcompensate. I was this, and I got way more results then than I do now.

And on top of everything, if you use spirituality to feed your devilry.. then you are unstoppable.

 

[aurum]

4 hours ago, integral said:

But are the results people get from cold approach alone as good as what I'm describing?

And if it is, is it because a person has qualities that make them good at cold approach?

I feel like one size doesn't fit all

If you have a good venue and know what you’re doing, you might be surprised.

Yes, it’s a very specific skill to be good at cold approach. You need to be extremely good at initiating and creating positive first impressions. That takes a certain kind of personality and mindset.

I’ve met a ton of guys who definitely are attractive and social otherwise, but they completely fold if they have to cold approach. It’s not something a lot of people are used to doing.

And most serious cold approach is on a spectrum with what you’re describing. You might work the venue, get to know lots of different people and draw attention + social proof that way.

Obviously it’s not one size fits all. But it is something almost every guy can immediately go out and try, regardless of slack-lining skills 

[Valach]

59 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Results in cold approaching is mostly inner game.

If traumas run you deeply, it is impossible to behave confidently and congruently.

At the same time, smaller form of twisted trauma can get you crazy results, if it makes you deeply manipulative and desire validation and success to overcompensate. I was this, and I got way more results then than I do now.

And on top of everything, if you use spirituality to feed your devilry.. then you are unstoppable.

 

Yeah, I find this fascinating. It is not so much about the trauma you carry, but about how the trauma manifests in you. Almost everyone has a lot of trauma from childhood.

But you can have 2 guys with the same childhood, one will turn out to bill shut in introvert and another will be player who can not commit. Both unhealthy, but one of them will have "game".

[Ulax]

6 hours ago, integral said:

LMFAO I'm sure they are, I don't know how much of what they're doing is skill vs other ascpects like natural personality.

I Don't know if one size fits all.

The pick up cold approach fantasy doesn't feel like it works for a lot of different types of people, to unnatural to them

I get you bro. Its very understandable to skeptical of Pickup. It sounds like the biggest fucking scam of all time. "Yes, every dude can get game so good they can date the hottest models." and then you think of the dude from high school who used to lick windows and you think yeah fucking right lmao.

But a lot of this shit makes a big difference in my experience. And you have "Aha!" moments. For example, loads of dudes think ok the girl is deciding whether to choose me or not, i better impress her. But with pick up you can flip that on its head and instead YOU become the decider, where she is trying to impress you. And then its a whole different ball game.