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Martin Ball about staying symmetrical on 5-MeO

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《 In this video I get into the topic of embodied nondual energetics with 5-MeO-DMT, and more specifically, how the ego is most often embodied through physical asymmetries and how, in the ego-dissolved nondual state, the body spontaneously exhibits bilateral symmetry. Because of this fundamental difference, individuals can intentionally use embodied symmetry to lessen the persistent energetic patterning of the ego, decrease the likelihood of the ego holding on, resisting, and fighting, and more effectively move into the nondual state beyond the apparent separation of subject and object and the appearance of the character of the individuated self. Because this approach is so effective, it provides direct evidence that nondual states of being are more properly understood as energetic in nature than relating to "spirituality," beliefs, metaphysics, or anything that isn't immediately embodied and experienced directly in one's being. No spirituality is needed, no complex metaphysics - just awareness of how the body is expressing energy and a persistent return to the "neutral position" of open, relaxed, bilateral symmetry. This also provides a lens through which one can assess participants' ability to relax, trust, and let go, and gives facilitators tools for coaching, feedback, and helping their clients to maximize the nondual potential of the 5-MeO-DMT experience.

Once you learn this distinction between symmetry and asymmetry, it holds the power to revolutionize the way you approach embodied energetics and is applicable across all psychedelic medicines and embodied life in general outside of any psychedelic sessions. 

Symmetry is THE KEY! 》


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Has never been any issue for me.


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I never got much value from his books and videos, but the concept of body symmetry did help me.

Being on high psychedelic states all tied up in a knot, legs and arms crossed, spine twisted; it's just not a good idea. Being symmetrical helps with the energetic flow. Being open, symmetrical, relaxed, and in balance is important.

It also helps to detect when ego comes back, for example you are contemplating and suddenly after a question your body starts closing down, look closely there's something to be learned there, come back to symmetry, relax and keep contemplating.

It's overall a nice practice to have in mind when tripping, it's a good tool to know.

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God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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@Loveeee Have you gotten interesting tips from Martin Ball that helped you tripping?


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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14 hours ago, Davino said:

@Loveeee Have you gotten interesting tips from Martin Ball that helped you tripping?

I'm just starting with his content as I'm now going deep with 5-MeO


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14 hours ago, Davino said:

the energetic flow

What do you mean by energetic flow? Martin talks about energy a lot and I can relate somehow but what are we talking about

 

 


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Something strange has happened to me after doing 5 meo and nndmt hundreds of times:  I can't visualize anything in my mind. That is, if I want to imagine my car, I know that somewhere in my mind there's a file called "my car," and that's enough, but I don't see anything at all. The same thing happens with nndmt; zero images even with huge dose. It's not something I miss; in fact, my mind is infinitely better than before, but it's strange.

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I am skeptical of one-size-fits-all solutions.   I could see that potentially being harmful if a facilitator pushes a client toward symmetry when the body is doing what is needs to do.  


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