Women are attracted to relativity

[LordFall]

Cold approach has limited upside in terms of the social life you can build. If you're able to get decent recents with cold approach that's cool but social circle allows you to take those women that you approach and invite them to events to build a whole network and community for whatever you want. I host photoshoots and business events for example, you might have different interests.

Cold approach also is just 1 on 1 so really either you end up dating one of the women you like and that's the end of it or you just hook up with a bunch of people. Social circle lets you hangout with many women at once, make cool male friends too, increase your status, throw events, make money, help and give back to the people in your community, etc. 

This forum is a social circle, it's just online. Humans are communal we like groups of people. The same skills you learned in pickup can be used on your social life as a whole. Usually you end up with way hotter women too, what I see in cold approach only guys is they aren't able to attract or keep the highest tier of women because usually their social life is empty and boring. 

[Valach]

6 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Cold approach has limited upside in terms of the social life you can build. If you're able to get decent recents with cold approach that's cool but social circle allows you to take those women that you approach and invite them to events to build a whole network and community for whatever you want. I host photoshoots and business events for example, you might have different interests.

Yes, but I am not interested in that. That is the point.

6 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Cold approach also is just 1 on 1 so really either you end up dating one of the women you like and that's the end of it or you just hook up with a bunch of people. Social circle lets you hangout with many women at once, make cool male friends too, increase your status, throw events, make money, help and give back to the people in your community, etc. 

Yes, but I am not interested in that. That is the point.

6 minutes ago, LordFall said:

This forum is a social circle, it's just online. Humans are communal we like groups of people. The same skills you learned in pickup can be used on your social life as a whole. Usually you end up with way hotter women too, what I see in cold approach only guys is they aren't able to attract or keep the highest tier of women because usually their social life is empty and boring. 

I do have my own social circles. But they are aligned with what I want and that does not really connect to woman or meeting woman. And you definitely do not need some super cool social circle to date attractive woman. That is your limiting belief. I have done that. I have seen guys do that. I have literally dated gorgeous woman while playing video games in most of my free time. Not saying that you should be doing that, it was an unhealthy pattern for me. But you do not need any of that.

Many of the woman I dated I met as they were going to or from the social event some guy planned for them.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Valach

[LordFall]

Perhaps your current burnout with dating stems from the lack of integration into your overall life goals and social circle. It's all connected my friend. Cold approach has an early ceiling, I'm not surprised you're reaching some diminishing returns in it. The unhealthy pattern in my experience comes from when you invest too much time in your dating life at the expense of other areas in your life. 

I dated hot girls when I was not doing high level social circle events but the quality and how well they fit into my life has only gone up since I started doing it. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[Valach]

1 minute ago, LordFall said:

Perhaps your current burnout with dating stems from the lack of integration into your overall life goals and social circle. It's all connected my friend. Cold approach has an early ceiling, I'm not surprised you're reaching some diminishing returns in it. I dated hot girls when I was not doing high level social circle events but the quality and how well they fit into my life has only gone up since I started doing it. 

I never said I am burned out from dating. That is your assumption.

[LordFall]

1 minute ago, Valach said:

I never said I am burned out from dating. That is your assumption.

You said that you stopped believing in cold approach and are now focusing more on platonic relationships. Which is it? 

[Valach]

9 minutes ago, LordFall said:

You said that you stopped believing in cold approach and are now focusing more on platonic relationships. Which is it? 

Those are things that I said in multiple places in multiple different contexts.

I am not dating as of now for unrelated reason - it is not like platonic relationships are my focus now. I had friends even when I was dating/cold approching obviously. But building on deeper friendship is quite nice compared to shallowness of casual dating.

What I said about cold approaching is that it is not the most reliable way to get good with woman for most guys. Not that it is not a reliable way for meeting woman. I would say the same about any social circle game or any other route. Most people have way deeper issues than that.

In my personal opinion most people should not be dating at all and rather focusing on healing their traumas and inner world. But I am bit radical with that. I know that is not happening.

Edited 1 hour ago by Valach

[Miguel1]

Dating a girl, who requires you to offer her a great lifestyle / social circle, no matter how hot she is, is exhausting and unaligned with what I really want.

And seems like that is what Valach also shares.

There’s other things / highers things in life than dating the hottest girls.

[Valach]

Just now, Miguel1 said:

Dating a girl, who requires you to offer her a great lifestyle / social circle, no matter how hot she is, is exhausting and unaligned with what I really want.

And seems like that is what Valach also shares.

There’s other things / highers things in life than dating the hottest girls.

I think if I told my younger self how fast you get "used to" the hotness of the woman you are dating, he would not believe me. But after you realize that, you start screening for diffrent things. 

[Schizophonia]

I believe that the more you think you can manipulate something, the less you can love it.

[Miguel1]

6 minutes ago, Valach said:

I think if I told my younger self how fast you get "used to" the hotness of the woman you are dating, he would not believe me. But after you realize that, you start screening for diffrent things. 

Same. That being said, many will never move on from that hotness.

I personally got tired from it quite fast.