Girl Power is a lie

[Sincerity]

Just now, Monster Energy said:

Every now and then I like to give my inner asshole some fresh air.

Give him love.

[Monster Energy]

3 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

Give him love.

I will

Edited 5 hours ago by Monster Energy

[Sugarcoat]

12 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

That’s fair. I actually enjoyed hearing your perspective. 

 

It’s nice when we express authentically yea. Your cheeseburger comment was hilarious to me💀💀maybe sounds hypocritical of me to think it’s funny but humor is one thing, empathy is another and they can coexist 

Edited 5 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[Basman]

48 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Listen to yourself please.

This is not something to be proud of.

I find your guys' lack of empathy disturbing.

It's kinda scary how literal you are sometimes.

[Sugarcoat]

8 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

Yeah, you’re right. Every now and then I like to give my inner asshole some fresh air.

 

Gotta release that “monster energy” sometimes 😂😂😂😂

[Natasha Tori Maru]

21 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

I never said they were lying about girls who look better than them. My point is that envy or even a little bit of hate can exist without someone being dishonest.

You can genuinely like someone and still feel jealous of them at the same time.

 

Yep but you extrapolated that girl power was a lie. You came in with absolute statements and judgements about others being losers and now you are backtracking. 

It appears like you made a hasty, snap judgement and then backtracked adding nuance. A well thought out idea about mechanisms probably would have added the above in the first place. Points to emotional offloading rather than a proper point.

So is girl power a lie? Or are do some PEOPLE suffer from envy? 

Why is this topic gendered?

It applies to men and women.

Edited 5 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Monster Energy]

38 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

It’s nice when we express authentically yea. Your cheeseburger comment was hilarious to me💀💀maybe sounds hypocritical of me to think it’s funny but humor is one thing, empathy is another and they can coexist 

Haha, now we’re talking. Humor and empathy can absolutely coexist. Otherwise I’d be in serious trouble.

 

[Monster Energy]

34 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Yep but you extrapolated that girl power was a lie. You came in with absolute statements and judgements about others being losers and now you are backtracking. 

It appears like you made a hasty, snap judgement and then backtracked adding nuance. A well thought out idea about mechanisms probably would have added the above in the first place. Points to emotional offloading rather than a proper point.

So is girl power a lie? Or are do some PEOPLE suffer from envy? 

Why is this topic gendered?

It applies to men and women.

“Girl power” is a lie because girls say they support each other in everything and love each other, but that is not always true. Of course, this topic has to be about a gender since I’m specifically talking about girl power. Not even gay men go around shouting “girl power.” 

 

 

[Monster Energy]

47 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Gotta release that “monster energy” sometimes 😂😂😂😂

Absolutely😭

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

“Girl power” is a lie because girls say they support each other in everything and love each other, but that is not always true. Of course, this topic has to be about a gender since I’m specifically talking about girl power. Not even gay men go around shouting “girl power.” 

 

 

No, but men support each other in similar ways. Just without the label. Bros before Hoes is a similar phrase and idea. It's not gendered.

Again I think it's a you problem - you are interpreting 'Girl Power' without applying any nuance. But applying nuance in other ways to other things.

It appears as bias.

Edited 4 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Monster Energy]

3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

No, but men support each other in similar ways. Just without the label. Bros before Hoes is a similar phrase and idea.

Again I think it's a you problem - you are interpreting 'Girl Power' without applying any nuance. But applying nuance in other ways to other things.

It appears as bias.

I hear you. But you’re kind of proving my point without realizing it.

I’m not saying one gender is better or worse here. I’m saying the labels create an illusion of consistency that reality doesn’t always support. 
 

 

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

I hear you. But you’re kind of proving my point without realizing it.

I’m not saying one gender is better or worse here. I’m saying the labels create an illusion of consistency that reality doesn’t always support. 
 

 

 

But of course - you have to really be biased to take a phrase like "Girl Power" to be absolute and irrevocably true all the time. 

It flattens out all the different types of people and reactions they have to various situations. Removes all nuance. 

I'm not proving your point, because your point lacks all nuance and I don't support absolutes like this. Girl Power can be taken to stupid, blind extremes. Just like Bros before Hoes. 

The common factor is - people - not gender.

[Monster Energy]

4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The common factor is - people - not gender.

When men compliment other men, it often comes across as more straightforward and literal, while among women it can sometimes feel more socially layered or context-dependent.

 

[Raze]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Girls aren't judging each other as harshly as men judge girls appearance.

That is false, research suggests women are more critical in evaluating womens appearances than men.

[Hojo]

4 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I mean if you as a guy can’t stop lusting over women purely based on their appearance and you feel like that one hot girl that you know nothing about holds the portal to divinity or something for you, then maybe you can sympathize with a girl who is forced to live inside her body every second of every day that she thinks is ugly, when she feels a little “hate” or whatever for a prettty girl

Just a thought.  

In order for a man to not lust just over appearances the woman has to be cooler than him. Thats like .01 percent of woman.

Imo men have way more diverse personalities than woman. Alot of woman are the exact same.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

When men compliment other men, it often comes across as more straightforward and literal, while among women it can sometimes feel more socially layered or context-dependent.

 

If we think men aren't subject to external social norms and social layering we have bias. Both sexes capitulate. Both sexes play the game of context. 

Women often appear more likely to preserve social harmony or protect feelings in communication. Men often appear more willing to tolerate interpersonal friction in pursuit of directness. But both tendencies exist in both sexes, and determining how much of the observed difference is biological versus social remains an open question.

And if I hear men claim they are less emotional that women one more time I will scream! (Not directed at OP 😃). Men are just as emotional and make just as many emotional decisions. Look at violent crime. Look at anger. Impulsive decisions etc. The claim only works when you have crazy arse categories for what emotions are, and aren't able to understand and feel them properly.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

And stop plugging responses into AI to try to moderate or bring nuance to points. 

It is obvious.

[Hojo]

21 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

 

Women often appear more likely to preserve social harmony or protect feelings in communication.

And if I hear men claim they are less emotional that women one more time I will scream!

contradicting statement.

You dont say what you want to say to preseve emotional feelings. Men dont do that. Cause they are less emotional.

Id argue the reason why men as so emotional nowadays is cause woman did do this to them. Its not there inherantly its brainwash from woman.

Its like when you fall when you are kid and look to see your parents reaction. The feedback from the parent make the kid cry. If the woman stopped babying men then we wouldnt have these emotions.

Human men are like mechs. We are supposed to be like super sayians. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Hojo No. Men are just as emotional. It manifests differently is all. 

They may be less likely to make emotion based decisions - but I struggle with this. Violent crime is a good example.

The claim only works, as I raised, if you only term some feelings/emotions as feelings/emotions, and others not.

[Hojo]

@Natasha Tori Maru You are comparing something a fraction of men do with something all woman do.