How did the ( Illusion ) the sense of separation start?

[Jirh]

Ugh... So much loaded terminology here.

I'd suggest that questioning the terminology in this case is more helpful than engaging with it or using it as a framework to question.

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

Do you believe that ? 

Partially.  

[Hojo]

@Someone here Yes I remeber I have my first panic attack when I came the first time. Its too much shock to who you are. When you are young it will cause an awakening as you are like wtf did i just feel there. The first time I came was my first realization that I will die and it spawned a 25 year panic disorder for me.

It was my first time I questioned WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?!

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Someone here]

6 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Partially.  

Then what do you think is a human being? Come on man . 

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Someone here Yes I remeber I have my first panic attack when I came the first time. Its too much shock to who you are. When you are young it will cause an awakening as you are like wtf did i just feel there. The first time I came was my first realization that I will die and it spawned a 25 year panic disorder for me.

It was my first time I questioned WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?!

You never know if you are cumming or going .

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Then what do you think is a human being? Come on man . 

I would frame the inquiry like this.  What is the relation between the finite vs. the afinite (or infinite) perspective?

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I would frame the inquiry like this.  What is the relation between the finite vs. the afinite (or infinite) perspective?

The finite can never completely comprehend the infinite .

the infinite doesn’t know finite .

[Hojo]

@Someone here Im cumming daddy

[Someone here]

8 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Someone here Im cumming daddy

Guud Gurl.

[Mellowmarsh]

40 minutes ago, Hojo said:

When you cum.

Not quite, you’d first need to know what cum is. But by the time you know for sure, you’d be too late, the cum would have already come,  it’s not like the cum is going to hang around waiting for you to confirm the cum is what you say it is. 

[Mellowmarsh]

30 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I would frame the inquiry like this. 

By golly you’ve nailed it. You’ve been framed. That’s when the separation started. Kudos to you Joe. 

[VeganAwake]

The really shocking part is that it never actually started. It only seems to!

That's typically only recognized clearly when it dies.

[Joseph Maynor]

16 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

By golly you’ve nailed it. You’ve been framed. That’s when the separation started. Kudos to you Joe. 

You are super defensive for someone who thinks they have no self.  Not surprising to me since I've known you all the way back to Phil's forum.  

[James123]

10 hours ago, Someone here said:

It occurs In the brain . Newborns are conscious but they are not “self-conscious “. The sense of I arises in the brain around 4 years old to help the organism survive .

Just close your eyes, and literally think these thoughts what you say above, try to see them, really deeply look at them, but not as trying or looking just be aware of them. 

Can you really be sure that what they are? Any thoughts, including word of "any thoughts".

[Mellowmarsh]

47 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You are super defensive for someone who thinks they have no self.  Not surprising to me since I've known you all the way back to Phil's forum.  

Oh please don’t, I can’t 🤷‍♀️

Your responses are getting so unbelievably predictable, it’s so boring. Try changing the record.

[Mellowmarsh]

56 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You are super defensive for someone who thinks they have no self.  Not surprising to me since I've known you all the way back to Phil's forum.  

By the way, you’re very super insecure for someone who thinks they have a self. 😜 

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, VeganAwake said:

The really shocking part is that it never actually started. It only seems to!

That's typically only recognized clearly when it dies.

That’s very true, because that which starts will end, like that which is born will die. 

Seemingly.