bryan johnson looks like a drug addict

[Natasha Tori Maru]

5 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I mean does he suffer now with his current behavior (e.g. while maintaining his Blueprint protocol)? Does he feel it's a problem that is negatively impacting his life in some way? Even if he hasn't commented on this specifically, what would you guess? To me, there is a distinction between say a Howie Mandel ("I don't feel in control of my thoughts") and Bryan Johnson "we will conquer mortality". I guess unless he is so much in denial and blind to his own mental life that anything he says about his mental state is inaccurate, it would probably be hard to label it a "mental disorder", but perhaps again "personality disorder" is possible.

In my personal opinion? Which, to be clear, is free of any judgement. It appears to me the blueprint routine and rigidity is a control mechanism that mirrors the control of conditions such as Anorexia Nervosa. Restrictive eating in these types of conditions (I think EDNOS as well - if that is even a thing? The DSM changes a lot and I only loosely check it out) is usually a mechanism to feel like one is in control when other aspects of their existence are very unstable or out of control. 

I've known my sister, mother and grandmother to suffer from either Anorexia or restrictive eating / disordered eating at some points in each of their lives. In all three, I witnessed (and they confessed) they felt the eating disorder never really went away, just manifested in a different form until it was non-pathological (I use this term to imply the disorder was not longer inhibiting/impacting their basic functions as humans). But they each report it is always present, like and addiction - it never goes away. And this appears to mirror what many other people who have suffered from the condition report. From food restriction, to overeating, to bulimia, to exercise addiction into orthorexia like forms.

I think Byran doesn't understand what death is (spiritually), and some of the above could be driven by an intense fear of death. He had a huge break from the Mormon religion, and losing an entire worldview like that can be very destabilising. Blueprint could be a rebuild of the structure of Mormonism that was cast aside. But who really knows. All I know is something doesn't feel quite right for me intuitively. The entire drive to have an entire life lived in service to an algorithm (as per Don't Die' dinners where he goes into the end game of Don't Die) makes me question his motivations and emotional health. His philosophy is very poor when questioned - as per his Youtube interview with Doctor Mike (physician Mike, not that clown Israetel).

I think he could feel so internally out of control (past 7pm + binges, bad sleeping), external rigid control is acting to calm his internal world. The possibility exists he isn't addressing what is really the internal issue he has (whatever that may be, if there is one) and using blueprint to give his brain the certainty he craves. Which dovetails back to how destabilizing Mormonism was when he left the church. He seems very fragile - reporting off sleep totally bricks his system. But this is to be expected if he has thyroid issues (poor dude).

He also certainly has an ego, which I don't fault him for (we all have one!). He wants to be 'remembered'. He wants to be as big and renound as the man he reads about who did great things. There is service to ego present - and because he doesn't understand spiritually what that is, he wants that ego to survive. Can you imagine the devilry of uploading the small self to AI to live on? Preserving the worst parts of ourselves

He did do some fucken shady as fuck shit with his ex wife - making her disclose, in a contract, all the sexual positions she had been in with previous partners etc WEIRD. I cannot recall all of it but the claims made by Taryn Southern are worth looking into. But these are hearsay - and courts threw her case out when she tried to sue him. The sex position stuff seemed to be authentic after it came out. There is a podcast swimming around where a panel of people broke down the case (found it actually!) 

I found this when googling my theory earlier: https://desmolysium.com/bryan-johnson-the-worlds-most-expensive-eating-disorder/

Interesting case the author makes. Some sort of obsessive compulsive issue may be likely.

None of the above detracts from some of the other good work he does. I just view all social media 'health' influencers are salespeople, ultimately. So I don't give much stock. Bryan is just fun as fuck for me to psychologically profile!

Edited 13 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Thought Art]

Something I’ve learned in life and from this form and you have to cut through peoples bullshit. Cut through Leo’s, and everyone else here. 
 

This is really powerful information which cleans up so much online bullshit about online fitness. Me and my sister speak about this stuff and it’s good to see Bryan putting it so cleanly. It’s inspiring to me. 
 

I am learning that, expecting others to see things the way I do isn’t worth while. Reality is swimming in an ocean of shitty opinions. When you find gold or true signal you gotta stick with it. Bryan’s work is gold. Most of Leo’s work is gold. Holden Qigong is gold. And others. Brendon Burchard is gold. 

Health, fitness, spiritual development, personal development, high performance. This is gold. 
 

I WILL develop a clearer perception than 99% of people. Including you. Even Leo eventually for a lot of areas of life. Leo has limitations I see. He’s part of me not the whole. 
 

People judging instead of creating is bullshit. Leo, is great. But, the fact he’s a jerk sometimes makes me not respect him as much as I used to. I have mixed feelings about him. But, I’m aware of not having much information. 
 

Byran is making quality content while Leo sits on a chair with a dirty shirt and talks to the camera. They aren’t doing the same thing.  Leo’s insights are obviously the value but… it’s not like he’s doing quality creativity beyond that. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

1 hour ago, integral said:

He might get that "raw vegan look"

Yeah? Well he doesn’t and it’s been years now… his hands look fine… I saw a post with bruised hands but it didn’t look like his hands so maybe there is a photo going around trolling people. I’m not sure. 

[Thought Art]

@Natasha Tori Maru His ex while black mailed him for money. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Viewing anyone as all good or all bad is fail.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, Thought Art said:

@Natasha Tori Maru His ex while black mailed him for money. 

You should watch the podcast about the court case relating to this I linked above.

[Thought Art]

@Natasha Tori Maru I can check it out. But, also it’s clear she was working with predatory lawyers to get money from him. Asking for huge payouts in exchange for not going public. They did this multiple times. 
 

Of course he isn’t all good. However, good people do exist. There are tonnes of public figures who has leaves fairly decent lives. Just because we live in a perverted age doesn’t mean everyone is a weirdo.

Like, Bryan Johnson’s current relationship is extremely public and appears to be going very well. Odd for a guy who is a weird pervert hey? Doesn’t add up. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Thought Art

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Thought Art It's not a hit piece (the one I linked) - I've seen all the main clips of him including the one above you linked.

Like I said I am obsessed with Bryan as a sort of case study, I've researched all sides. 

Defence isn't needed - having a nuanced ambiguous opinion isn't a bad thing. It's generally the more intelligent and mature assessment.

[Thought Art]

@Natasha Tori Maru  My goal is to have a mature assessment. I don’t assess him as a weird pervert guy. It’s clear the case has been judged and the matters dealt with siding with Bryan and showing malice and contempt of his ex fiancée.

 

I have nuanced opinions about everything. This should be obvious as I am a follower of Leo’s work. I’m open to all humans being complex and full of good and bad. However, I consider Byran to be a man of high value, integrity and someone who is pursuing his life purpose with love in his heart. Someone who genuinely wants to serve and be of value to the world.

 

It’s a very high life purpose he has, even if flawed. Cleaning up societies understanding of health and fitness, sleep, nutrition, and supply chains is a very practical thing.

Leo says his work is practical. It’s not. Only for a niche domain of God realization and deep philosophical, epistemological understanding and awakening. All that is the highest life purpose for sure. But, to 99% of humans it’s useless. For now…

 

But, for most of humanity I’d say getting serious about health and longevity is important. Old people tend to end up governing. Is clear to me health, food, sleep, exercise and having loving role models is impotent for future generations. We want healthy presidents, tree teachers, co-workers, bosses, friends, partners. Because healthy people in mind, body and spirit are far more likely to function properly and not create shit hole societies, workplaces, government systems, etc… does health mean someone can be evil? No… but, I’d bet healthy people who sleep well overall are more well balanced and less likely to distort their thinking in weird twisted ways assuming normal genetics. Who knows what our food supply, information and social media ecosystem is doing to us, poisoning us, killing us. We are swimming in a sea of corruption and bullshit. 
 

Bryan is displaying it and making it known and showing healthy path forward. That’s his role.

So fuck Leo and his shitty attitude frankly on this matter. 
 

Hey, I’m deeply flawed. Leo is. Bryan is. We all are. But, that to me doesn’t matter because everyday we can grow. I see that in Bryan. 
 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Thought Art

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

 I don’t assess him as a weird pervert guy.

Cool, neither do I.

3 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Leo says his work is practical. It’s not. Only for a niche domain of God realization and deep philosophical, epistemological understanding and awakening. All that is the highest life purpose for sure. But, to 99% of humans it’s useless. For now…

Disagree - I am sure Leo would tell you I am as pragmatic as they come. I have found God realization and deep philosophical, epistemological understanding to have greatly increased my output at work, and reduced suffering in the process. To the extend I enjoy all my time. At work, folding laundry, eating a meal, cleaning the toilet. There is no where I would rather be than in the present moment. Leo's work helped with that - as well as all of the supplementary work from other teachers.

[Thought Art]

@Natasha Tori Maru Yeah but you are rare. 
 

Awakening has helped me in the same way. I can foresee deeeeeep levels of maturity are in my future. 
 

What Bryan is doing is far more practical and accessible for most people. Having healthy cells that make up our society is important. 
 

Human evolution and development requires holism. Leo does his thing, other people do theirs. 
 

I say collect your bag of goodies. 
 

1. Models of reality 

2. Systems for living 

3. Your update and refresh rate 

 

also, plenty of people have spirituality. They just aren’t as deep or infinite as Leo. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Thought Art

[Natasha Tori Maru]

8 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

 I can foresee deeeeeep levels of maturity are in my future. 

Same for me (as in, I see that for you).

Bryan is putting out a good message - totally agree. 

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Thought Art said:

Leo sits on a chair with a dirty shirt

Really??

This is how you see me?

[MsNobody]

He talks openly about having sex with his partner, super weird. Look at this post on X

The comments!! Lol 

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@MsNobody

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

https://www.reddit.com/r/blueprint_/comments/1toku3q/examining_kates_1/

[Carl-Richard]

@Natasha Tori Maru

Yeah that's yeah. Yeah.

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

@Natasha Tori Maru

Yeah that's yeah. Yeah.

😵‍💫

Hahaha! He bussin. 

I hope he makes a breakthrough. Could be awesome. 

But I have some questions 👀

[integral]

11 hours ago, Thought Art said:

Yeah? Well he doesn’t and it’s been years now… his hands look fine… I saw a post with bruised hands but it didn’t look like his hands so maybe there is a photo going around trolling people. I’m not sure. 

I'm not saying it will happen, and it's been 2 years, and the raw vegan look takes 6-8.

He has not proven himself yet with science that would only be true with time.

The science hes doing is on himself, he is the experiment.

2 years is nothing.

Edited 1 hour ago by integral