ROOBIO

Spiritual conundrum

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I am facing a dilema in my practice, so doing like 4 hours daily, anapana, kriya, do nothing, labeling, also tripping.

The practice is opening real fast right now. Sustained bliss, Seeing myself in everything, Sitting for hours just blissing out.

And the more it deepens the more everything else looks like decoration. I am less motivated to push to make more money, I am less motivated to put the effort into dating, cause I just love sitting, even when I experience negative emotions, it makes to so nice. However, this has consequences. I can see this effecting material aspects of my life. Which I am confused about.

How do you manage this? Ideally, I want to be and sit more, but it will take away to much form my daily life. 

 

 

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The highest understanding forbids survival.

Survival, if you wish to do so, must come at a cost. You must find balance between the two.

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Madness lies just passed the veil of sanity

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The two are not necessarily conflicting with each other. In fact .. if you enjoy just sitting there then it should mean you enjoy watching the birds more and enjoy going on walks with your friends even more . Because these things are naturally enjoyable. If your baseline of enjoyment is low such that you enjoy meditating then you should enjoy daily activities. Congratulations for seeing the beauty of just consciousness but next step is being able to enjoy doing your life .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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1 hour ago, Someone here said:

The two are not necessarily conflicting with each other. In fact .. if you enjoy just sitting there then it should mean you enjoy watching the birds more and enjoy going on walks with your friends even more . Because these things are naturally enjoyable. If your baseline of enjoyment is low such that you enjoy meditating then you should enjoy daily activities. Congratulations for seeing the beauty of just consciousness but next step is being able to enjoy doing your life .

"if you enjoy just sitting there then it should mean you enjoy watching the birds more and enjoy going on walks with your friends even more". I do enjoy these as much. All I want to do is watch birds and talk shit with people, this is the same as sitting, just being, but this is different from making money and putting in the effort to date.

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20 minutes ago, ROOBIO said:

"if you enjoy just sitting there then it should mean you enjoy watching the birds more and enjoy going on walks with your friends even more". I do enjoy these as much. All I want to do is watch birds and talk shit with people, this is the same as sitting, just being, but this is different from making money and putting in the effort to date.

Aha this is laziness then . Maybe the meditation is too much ? Meditation should teach you it’s all equal.   You must simply be happy within yourself.  Looking for happiness externally is a battle almost never won.  It is a thirst quenched only temporarily  with the thirst only to return with stronger vengeance. 
it’s pointless to tell you this because no one is convinced of anything other than their own experiences..and I’m not sure if you have come to this same conclusion yourself .
my point is this doesn’t really make you broke or single .if you want to make money then what are you doing sitting on your ass ? There are ways of making money in this world..robbing a bank ..investing in the stock market ..bitcoin etc . Money is never made by sitting and doing nothing . My point is you don’t have to choose . Make time for mediation and time for practical things to achieve your goals . This is not rocket science.


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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49 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Aha this is laziness then . Maybe the meditation is too much ? Meditation should teach you it’s all equal.   You must simply be happy within yourself.  Looking for happiness externally is a battle almost never won.  It is a thirst quenched only temporarily  with the thirst only to return with stronger vengeance. 
it’s pointless to tell you this because no one is convinced of anything other than their own experiences..and I’m not sure if you have come to this same conclusion yourself .
my point is this doesn’t really make you broke or single .if you want to make money then what are you doing sitting on your ass ? There are ways of making money in this world..robbing a bank ..investing in the stock market ..bitcoin etc . Money is never made by sitting and doing nothing . My point is you don’t have to choose . Make time for mediation and time for practical things to achieve your goals . This is not rocket science.

Appreciate your advice. But I do work. I don't really have the energy to put into finding a gf for per se. I am working on a startup with my friend and I am meditating for four-five hours a day , I could be working more on the business to make more money, but I don't, so I make less money. That's annoying, but I'd rather meditate. Do you see what I'm saying? 

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38 minutes ago, ROOBIO said:

Appreciate your advice. But I do work. I don't really have the energy to put into finding a gf for per se. I am working on a startup with my friend and I am meditating for four-five hours a day , I could be working more on the business to make more money, but I don't, so I make less money. That's annoying, but I'd rather meditate. Do you see what I'm saying? 

Yeah I get it and sorry for sounding a bit flashy and rude. 
again what you’re saying is that working  and making money or trying to get a girlfriend is simply difficult or requires effort and you don’t want to work..you’d rather sit and meditate but also you still want money and a relationship? Well this can’t fly . As a kid you hated going to school for example but you understand in hindsight this was for your greatest good?  I hate going to the gym every morning but no pain no gain .you have to bite that bullet.  What do you work as if you don’t mind beyond the startup ? Meditating 5 hours a day is a double edged weapon. Why are you meditating?

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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1 hour ago, Someone here said:

Yeah I get it and sorry for sounding a bit flashy and rude. 
again what you’re saying is that working  and making money or trying to get a girlfriend is simply difficult or requires effort and you don’t want to work..you’d rather sit and meditate but also you still want money and a relationship? Well this can’t fly . As a kid you hated going to school for example but you understand in hindsight this was for your greatest good?  I hate going to the gym every morning but no pain no gain .you have to bite that bullet.  What do you work as if you don’t mind beyond the startup ? Meditating 5 hours a day is a double edged weapon. Why are you meditating?

Atm I quit my job and went in on the startup. But I moved to the Himalayas so it is cheaper here.
And simple. I am reaching such profound states of love, beauty, by just doing nothing. 

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19 minutes ago, ROOBIO said:

And simple. I am reaching such profound states of love, beauty, by just doing nothing. 

Yeah but you still want a girl and cash so square this with that.


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Yeah but you still want a girl and cash so square this with that.

Good reminder.

 

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Its okay to want money and a companion.  There's no hypocrisy in it.  So long as you're primary drives aren't prestige, luxury, fame or power/influence over others you'll be fine.  You dont need to deny those things either should they come to you so long as they are balanced out with higher faculties and finer sentiments.

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Being more attuned to presence can make you sort of fine with being fractured, because you can always loop back into presence when you discover the crack. But paradoxically, it can also make you better at identifying the cracks and how to solve them. And if you also realize that the endless looping is actually less conducive to presence than smoothing out the cracks, you will hyper-fixate towards fixing the cracks. Because once the cracks are fixed, it becomes smooth.

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@ROOBIO Seems to me like you underestimate the value of wanting less. Isn't it easier to survive when you're light on your feet?


Spirituality is metaphysics grounded in phenomenology.

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2 hours ago, tsuki said:

@ROOBIO Seems to me like you underestimate the value of wanting less. Isn't it easier to survive when you're light on your feet?

Lightness of step is not directly equivalent to survival. It may make survival more pleasing, but it has nothing to do with actual survival abilities, or 'ease of' survival.


Madness lies just passed the veil of sanity

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@No1Here2c what are you on about?


Spirituality is metaphysics grounded in phenomenology.

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