Posted July 2 11 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said: Exactly. Fucked up grey area to inhabit. No clear boundaries in the blending of casual chat & proper teaching. What made Leo what he is, and what resonated with me is how alike we are. He just goes with stuff. And tells it precisely as it is. However the longer I am on this planet the more I realize it isn't just as simple as that. It is, I mean. But not everyone is at the same level. So we have to take that into account. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/110976-who-wants-actualized-psychedelic-retreats/?do=findComment&comment=1692493 Quote There are only two ways you will AWAKEN: either entirely by yourself by doing the work that I have done by myself, or by taking my words more seriously than all the other people on the planet and doing the work I tell you to do. 2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said: No clear boundaries in the blending of casual chat & proper teaching. Yep. And btw, the "don't take my words seriously" reply only happens when you corner him about something and he can't wiggle his way out of it. This is why I label these moves as plausible deniability moves and not serious, sincere, harm- and misunderstanding-reducing, preemptive moves. Edited July 2 by zurew Ive been going through a total AWAKENING... Hold on what is, what is at my door? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 1 minute ago, zurew said: I think somewhere along the line something happened to Leo and he developed some type of God complex. My theory is this due to the overuse of psychedelics to achieve his goal of discovering Truth. Somewhere along the line it went awry. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 If you call this a spiritual community your friends probably already know that you're a retard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Elliott said: If you call this a spiritual community your friends probably already know that you're a retard Your friends might just be attending Church every Sunday hoping they don't go to hell. Edited July 2 by Inliytened1 Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said: Your friends might just be attending Church every Sunday hoping they don't go to hell. Do you think adults actually believe in hell? They obviously don't, they are often the most overtly ungodly people. Yeshua said to him, “If you are serious about reaching the goal, go and sell your possessions, give to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come, follow me!” Edited July 2 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 @Elliott yep, my mum's side of the family all legit believe in a real hell. Some people do. It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 9 minutes ago, Elliott said: Do you think adults actually believe in hell? They obviously don't, they are often the most overtly ungodly people. Yeshua said to him, “If you are serious about reaching the goal, go and sell your possessions, give to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come, follow me!” What is the alternative to heaven? If it exists there must be an opposite. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 LMAO. This is not ending anytime soon. This is what actualized.org has to face given the type of topics Leo discusses in his videos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said: What is the alternative to heaven? If it exists there must be an opposite. Same thing, they obviously don't believe in heaven either. If someone believed in heaven and hell they would be an extremely 'crazy' person, they'd be homeless on the street corners screaming about it at everyone that walks by with everything they've got. They would not care about taxes, tv, and careers, lol. They want there to be a heaven and hell. Edited July 2 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 2 minutes ago, Dayo said: LMAO. This is not ending anytime soon. This is what actualized.org has to face given the type of topics Leo discusses in his videos. Its healthy discussion. For everyone. Look i am equally as guilty as Leo. Although I never developed a God complex. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 2 minutes ago, Elliott said: Same thing, they obviously don't believe in heaven either. If someone believed in heaven and hell they would be an extremely 'crazy' person, they'd be homeless on the street corners screaming at everyone that walks by about it with everything they've got. So you are saying tbey were like me. They sat in temple (in my case I am Jewish) and listened while remaining atheist. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said: So you are saying tbey were like me. They sat in temple (in my case I am Jewish) and listened while remaining atheist. Ya but they don't realize that. Edited July 2 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 1 minute ago, Elliott said: Ya but they don't realize that. True. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Elliott said: Ya but they don't realize that. The problem is if they don't realize it over time they accept what is put before them and it becomes part of their identity. And that's why you have the guys knocking at your door trying to get you to come to Church. So before you criticize this community you should look at what we have now. Its a mess. Edited July 2 by Inliytened1 Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 1 minute ago, Elliott said: That's encouraging but she's not identifying herself as an atheist. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 24 minutes ago, Elliott said: She doesnt acknowledge the possibility that God could exist. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 2 It's simple: you don't know if Leo is the most awakened being or not. It is an open question no matter what he says. Could you ever know? That's the question. I am inclined to say yes, I think being closed to that is foolish. Like I am talking about ACTUAL knowing. I am the impossible made reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
