Benthino Massaro being exposed

[Olaf]

@Jordan of the Shire I am not too familiar with Qi energy, but it sounds interesting. 

[Olaf]

@Wilhelm44 I don't work in the law, to me its rape, but what happens in court I have no clue, I am not an expert in that field. 

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Olaf said:

@Wilhelm44 I don't work in the law, to me its rape, but what happens in court I have no clue, I am not an expert in that field. 

Why do you view it as rape ?

[Wilhelm44]

I get the impression that the accusers are portraying themselves as being under some sort of spell, where they didn't have any agency. 

I dont see this going to court.

[Olaf]

@Wilhelm44 because having sex especially the first time with someone shouldn´t be a rape roleplay in my opinion and besides saying a rape roleplay makes it seem like he is not raping her, he is just doing a roleplay, so its `fine`. Not to forget she didn´t say they had any chemistry before, no romance, kissing or anything. Going from no romance to directly rape roleplay is very off, if thats not rape, its something very close to it and Bentinho might have done it in this way to make it look like its in this grey area, if he would ever get accused by it afterwards.

[Leo Gura]

28 minutes ago, Olaf said:

a rape roleplay

So absurd.

[Wilhelm44]

These days it feels like the only teachers who dont have any scandals are the old dudes like Tolle and Adyashanti. The only reason Leo dont have any scandals is because he's mostly a hermit. Just kidding Leo, we respect you.

[Jordan of the Shire]

4 hours ago, Olaf said:

@Jordan of the Shire I am not too familiar with Qi energy, but it sounds interesting. 

Prana is another word for it.

We have electromagnetic fields in our body called Dan Tians. They serve to facilitate different functions, such as organizing the mind and body. When the Dan Tians are consolidated and full, the channels of the body, and channels of the spirit are open. Energy flows, accumulates, and expands outward, given release. 

If you have ever heard the term Siddhi, this is how these powers become available. The Taoist reframe special abilities as "efficiency of the mind and body" rather than a special gift or a sign of nobility. Yogi's will call Siddhis dangerous and distractions on the path. I've heard Sadhguru say that he will even remove siddhis from his students who develop them because they often lead to a "circus". Kind of like what we have here with Massaro. 

People being under his spell is probably not an understatement. 

In addition to being extremely skilled in manipulation and persuasion, he also has a magnetic "aura" or field which affects the quality of the electromagnetic fields around him.

 

This is common for people who open their channels and develop their Qi. 

If you watch closely, while he speaks, he is repressing, controlling, and projecting. 

 

Side note:

When working with psychedelics, it would be wise to do some research into Qigong Deviations. To see how energy can get mixed up while opening the circuits.

Edited 10 hours ago by Jordan of the Shire

[Lyubov]

I’ve done some Qi work and Qigong and a decent amount of Taoist meditation and to be honest I don’t see how it fits into this discussion. It doesn’t make you efficient at being a sexpest. It calms you down and grounds you and lets you be in total flow where constant insight and the Tao are present moment to moment, shaping your life. 

This is your typical immature young guy who thinks he’s cool sitting on a couch smoking a cigar while getting a bunch of victim mode sheep to give you cash and listen to you speak. It’s marketing but for non duality. Of course an immature young guy like him is gonna try to fuck his horny female followers. He’s a sexpest and they are the sheep who cling to being victims. Match made in heaven. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Lyubov

[Olaf]

@Leo Gura I had to listen twice, because I couldn´t believe what I heard.

[Olaf]

@Jordan of the Shire Thank you for elaborating.

[Olaf]

@Wilhelm44 At this rate I wouldn´t be suprised if some weird stuff came out about them too, I don´t think the guru and student dynamic is healthy at the end of the day. It should probably be more like between you and God instead of some preacher. Basically the preacher makes you dogmatic, believing whatever he or she says, just like a religion or putting the bible before God. I just listen to regular meditations and have my own meditation practices for almost a year now, instead of all these gurus that I used to listen to for years, because I realised how it makes you dogmatic and also my intuition felt something was off about it, which has now been proven right. 

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Olaf said:

@Wilhelm44 At this rate I wouldn´t be suprised if some weird stuff came out about them too, I don´t think the guru and student dynamic is healthy at the end of the day. It should probably be more like between you and God instead of some preacher. Basically the preacher makes you dogmatic, believing whatever he or she says, just like a religion or putting the bible before God. I just listen to regular meditations and have my own meditation practices for almost a year now, instead of all these gurus that I used to listen to for years, because I realised how it makes you dogmatic and also my intuition felt something was off about it, which has now been proven right. 

I feel there's still value in learning from others from time to time. Just because Bentinho has some devilry in him, does not negate the fact that some wisdom flows through him as well. Same goes for Osho etc. You dont need to be a 'follower' to learn something new. 

[Jordan of the Shire]

3 hours ago, Lyubov said:

I’ve done some Qi work and Qigong and a decent amount of Taoist meditation and to be honest I don’t see how it fits into this discussion. It doesn’t make you efficient at being a sexpest. It calms you down and grounds you and lets you be in total flow where constant insight and the Tao are present moment to moment, shaping your life. 

This is your typical immature young guy who thinks he’s cool sitting on a couch smoking a cigar while getting a bunch of victim mode sheep to give you cash and listen to you speak. It’s marketing but for non duality. Of course an immature young guy like him is gonna try to fuck his horny female followers. He’s a sexpest and they are the sheep who cling to being victims. Match made in heaven. 

 

Yes, and unchecked qualities such as lust, greed, anger, and delusion are empowered by an increase in life force energy. 

Arts that increase life force energy quickly are not great for these kinds of ailments in people.

It's one of the reasons why taking care of the basics and being a decent human being is considered important in pretty much every spiritual tradition. 

It's true you can become better with practice - but you can also become worse.

Edited 5 hours ago by Jordan of the Shire

[Jordan of the Shire]

@Olaf Yea brother, anytime

[integral]

20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Oldest trick in the spiritual playbook.

Tell me about it 😂

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Olaf I took a squiz at the link.... I couldn't get very far in. 

The mouth sounds, lip smacking and incessant cigar sucking had me dead 🤣

I probably would have gotten further had it not been for that. Benthino's way of speaking and tone is very much 'you fucken noob I'ma' tell you how it is and it's so obvious I'm going to make you feel like an idiot for your question' *puffs chest* *cigar sounds* 

He can't be so addicted to nicotine as to use it as a pacifier like that! 

[Leo Gura]

If someone tells you he has a magic penis, and you stay, I can't have any sympathy for you. Sorry.

[Olaf]

@Natasha Tori Maru hahaha exactly I couldn't have described it better, also he resonates with typical stage orange stuff like all the suits, wealth, cigars and young girls around him, how much stage orange can you get.. secretly he probably hates anyone and anything spiritual because he talks to people as if he is disgusted by them, telling them to start being normal and put on Deo and not to listen to their gremlin ego as he calls it. Belittling everyone except himself.

[integral]

17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I can't have any sympathy for you. Sorry.

lol now you sound like my 8 ex-girlfriends.

12 minutes ago, Olaf said:

@Natasha Tori Maru hahaha exactly I couldn't have described it better, also he resonates with typical stage orange stuff like all the suits, wealth, cigars and young girls around him, how much stage orange can you get.. secretly he probably hates anyone and anything spiritual because he talks to people as if he is disgusted by them, telling them to start being normal and put on Deo and not to listen to their gremlin ego as he calls it. Belittling everyone except himself.

The only benefit of the doubt I could give him is that he genuinely thinks he's like an alien among the Earth. 

Which is an easy frame to tap into, and from there you can orchestrate this deconstruction of all social norms which is what he's doing and basically justifying rape because his penis heals people, Hakuna Matata.

It's easy to see the rationality behind it from the frame he's claiming to view it from.

He's trying to do radical acceptance by eliminating all social norms

Edited 4 hours ago by integral