Rape Academy Case

[Leo Gura]

Stop with personal attacks. Let it go.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

I told yall long ago that these feminists will always view you as suckers. No matter what. Just by engaging with them you are already being a sucker because you are conceding a ridicilous notion that you are somehow responsible for this or partaking in this, even as much as 0,00001%. "Let us convince you why you are a sucker and a bad person despite the fact that nothing obviously tangible can be done about this and you are not responsible for this at all, in order for us to feel morally superior over you"

[Leo Gura]

@NewKidOnTheBlock Don't strawman feminists. That is not their position.

[Breakingthewall]

16 hours ago, Lila9 said:

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I was a teenager as well, and I remember experiencing very strong sexual impulses. This is a normal part of adolescent development, as this stage of life involves significant hormonal changes.

What distinguishes humans is the presence of a developed frontal cortex, which supports thoughtful decision-making and the ability to regulate impulses.

Teenagers may have weaker impulse control because the frontal cortex is still maturing during this period. This is why masturbation among teens is considered a healthy and normal aspect of sexual development because it allows them a safe and healthy release.

There are also adults whose frontal cortex development and the impulse control hasn't been fully developed due to factors such as genetics, socialization, or trauma.

I recommend to read this article about the myth of male hypersexuality:

https://razkia.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-male-hypersexuality

 

I skimmed the article and it's very interesting; I'll read it again later. I agree that the issue isn't solely biological in the sense of a direct animalistic drive. 90% of the sex drive (to give a figure) isn't physical but psychological, yet psychology is defined by biology.

Immature men (90% again, if you agree) perceive sex as acceptance, success, conquest, validation, power, and they identify all of this with life. The absence of sex is perceived as rejection, failure, death. So everyone has their obsessive radar focused on sex. This occupies a large percentage of your operating system and keeps you trapped at a very low relational level.

When a man manages to take the step that elevates him above that need for validation, the sexual obsession automatically disappears, and sex is perceived for what it is: a powerful but controllable instinct. And toxic sexuality is perceived for what it is: toxic to your system, negative, false.

But if you haven't taken that step, it's completely impossible for you to see it that way, no matter how much you theoretically understand it. Then you'll seek sex by any means necessary, lying, humiliating, paying, being a narcissist or anyway. You won't realize it's toxic because, from your current perspective, it's an absolute need.

[Lila9]

16 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

@Lila9 and this message had to be brougth by a woman. Thank you for bringing it up. I am tired of trying to express here how serious is this, and to see the same being said by some is the quotes I quote up here. And down here

 

 What to expect even from the Men who participate in this forum, created by man that Teach About Love, Goodness, Truth. 

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Thank you for your geniune attemp to understand and value truth.

I am not surprised by the forest creep behavior.

I hope such men will be forever isolated from women and children because they are not safe.

If all they have to say in a thread talking about rape of women is to bring the focus and attention back to their victimhood mentality or provide justifications to the rape culture, then they don't really like or care about women. 

[Ulax]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@NewKidOnTheBlock Don't strawman feminists. That is not their position.

That's not all feminists position. But it is some.

[Lila9]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I skimmed the article and it's very interesting; I'll read it again later. I agree that the issue isn't solely biological in the sense of a direct animalistic drive. 90% of the sex drive (to give a figure) isn't physical but psychological, yet psychology is defined by biology.

Immature men (90% again, if you agree) perceive sex as acceptance, success, conquest, validation, power, and they identify all of this with life. The absence of sex is perceived as rejection, failure, death. So everyone has their obsessive radar focused on sex. This occupies a large percentage of your operating system and keeps you trapped at a very low relational level.

When a man manages to take the step that elevates him above that need for validation, the sexual obsession automatically disappears, and sex is perceived for what it is: a powerful but controllable instinct. And toxic sexuality is perceived for what it is: toxic to your system, negative, false.

But if you haven't taken that step, it's completely impossible for you to see it that way, no matter how much you theoretically understand it. Then you'll seek sex by any means necessary, lying, humiliating, paying, being a narcissist or anyway. You won't realize it's toxic because, from your current perspective, it's an absolute need.

This is why I believe that rape and sexual violence are mainly caused by the socialization of men rather than uncontrollable lust or lust that is too strong to control.
If the latter is the case, then why do we even trust men to be in power?
The truth is, of course, that adult men can control it.
This explains how a man can be a president and still rape underage women, not because he cannot control his sexuality, but because he is violent and misogynistic.

[Rafael Thundercat]

On 19/04/2026 at 1:09 AM, Leo Gura said:

A site like that is not an example of patriarchy. It's a site for sexual deviants. Sexual deviants exist regardless of patriarchy or matriarchy

. And they will gather online to share smut. Welcome to human nature. How do you cure these deviants is a tall order.

Cure is an interesting word choice that I definitely aren’t into. Prevent? Stop? Sequester? Remove? Those are verbs I’d choose.

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Sexual deviants exist regardless of patriarchy or matriarchy

Based on your recent post here:

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Notice how the mind cannot even make sense of past reality, past peoples, because their words don't even fit the modern mind's paradigm. The modern mind can read an ancient text and misinterpret it simply because the plain written words don't compute in today's paradigm. This is no trivial thing. This means that your mind will misinterpret any paradigm sufficiently different from its own. And that's exactly what happens epistemically in our work.

 

You have to be intelligent enough to see that you are failing to understand a different perspective because you are trying to make sense of it using your perspective. This is where rationalism fails badly. But not just rationalism, most perspectives. The ability to see that your paradigm blocks your understanding of alternative paradigms by interpreting them through itself, is an advanced stage of cognitive development. 99.99% of human beings cannot see this.

 

How are you sure that this level of deviants sexual males existed in old Matriarchal Societies ? Maybe the best way to know was at least to study some Societies that still live in Matriarchal Values today. There a feel that @Lila9 posted some answers behind that maybe you didnt took the interst to see.(assuming) Epistemic Responsability ??

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Rafael Thundercat

[Rafael Thundercat]

25 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

This is why I believe that rape and sexual violence are mainly caused by the socialization of men rather than uncontrollable lust or lust that is too strong to control.

Our Modern Societies lack Iniciation rituals for Young Man, this is a ancient tecnology that still exist in some tribes. How men are iniciated in adult life today? For example in America? 

[Lila9]

8 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Cure is an interesting word choice that I definitely aren’t into. Prevent? Stop? Sequester? Remove? Those are verbs I’d choose.

Based on your recent post here:

 

How are you sure that this level of deviants sexual males existed in old Matriarchal Societies. Maybe the best way to know was at least to study some Societies that still live in Matriarchal Values today. There a feel that @Lila9 posted some answers behind that maybe you didnt took the interst to see.(assuming) Epistemic Responsability ??

 

There is a difference between millions of men worldwide participating in the rape of their unconscious, drugged wives or underage girls who cannot give consent and women who consume smut involving fictional characters that hurt no one.

Both are unhealthy because these people are sexually addicted, but the first is much worse than the second.

 

[Lila9]

1 minute ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Our Modern Societies lack Iniciation rituals for Young Man, this is a ancient tecnology that still exist in some tribes. How men are iniciated in adult life today? For example in America? 

Yes, they remain forever psychologically and emotionally immature. They are encouraged to stay lack of accountability by patriarchy. Society enables them. While women are socialized to mature too early.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@NewKidOnTheBlock Don't strawman feminists. That is not their position.

I wasn't talking about their position. Nowhere did I do that. I'm just highlighting that men will always be suckers from their POV, and as a feminist male, the only way to feel good about yourself is if you shit on other men as well. But it's always just talking and deconstruction, nothing actually tangible. Very low spine, weak bite activity

[Jacob Morres]

5 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

I wasn't talking about their position. Nowhere did I do that. I'm just highlighting that men will always be suckers from their POV, and as a feminist male, the only way to feel good about yourself is if you shit on other men as well. But it's always just talking and deconstruction, nothing actually tangible. Very low spine, weak bite activity

Sometimes feminism can be high spine, if you're in a more conservative area

But also feminism is also about our own individual behavior, not just collective 

Would you not say its valuable to hold certain feminist principles, even if it's not immediately valuable? Bc the collective needs individuals to believe these things for collective change

Edited 7 hours ago by Jacob Morres

[Opulence]

A rape academy would put Ted Bundy to shame.

 

[Rafael Thundercat]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

the only way to feel good about yourself is if you shit on other men as well. But it's always just talking and deconstruction, nothing actually tangible. Very low spine, weak bite activity

Is not about Shit on other Men, os about calling for Integrity and accountability in online and real life. Is when you hear men humiliating women,being misogynystic, inciting hate and violence against women you dont listen and comply, you stop them, call them out, is to act when/if you see men being violent with women. And of course deconstruction and awareness work is part of it, but if you think tagible things are not being made in the world you are blind of dont care to follow the work of many activists. Activists ,not Social Justice Warriors. There are people doing more than Moral Rage in the world  you just need to find them. Most of them are Women from all sorts of professions, Law,Social workers,Somatic healers,Therapists and more. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 hour ago, Jacob Morres said:

Sometimes feminism can be high spine, if you're in a more conservative area

But also feminism is also about our own individual behavior, not just collective 

Would you not say its valuable to hold certain feminist principles, even if it's not immediately valuable? Bc the collective needs individuals to believe these things for collective change

Don't really see any official feminist principles but I can agree with the core of it, which is that women should have equality in most areas and should have freedom to do whatever they want. At the same time I'm not gonna pretend like I'm some expert on the topic and there are many different ways to look at it including the one being shared here, a lot of touchy sensitive polarizing subjects for sure, been listening to both the critics and the bootlickers of this ideology. But overall, it is confusing and it's difficult to accept many perspectives a lot of these bootlicking type of people share, also hard to completely accept most, if not all, the critics either. So I'm mostly indifferent/neutral towards it, as long as these people don't lump me in together with some weirdos by a simplistic association and then threat me like some problem to solve. There should be something done against genuine rapists and pedophiles, maybe the punishment for the crimes should be much more severe, I don't know. But you're not gonna talk these people out of it

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Lila9 said:

This explains how a man can be a president and still rape underage women, not because he cannot control his sexuality, but because he is violent and misogynistic.

I don't think it's misogyny, I think the problem stems from the fact that our society has internalized the idea that ultimate happiness comes from romantic relationships, where you are chosen, accepted, and loved. The reality is very different; relationships are almost always a source of anxiety, unhappiness, and lies because people are seeking something to get of the relationship. 

Then there are people who take it a step further and see domination, power, and the humiliation of the other person as the maximum . They are always seeking happiness in the other person, but in different ways depending on their emotional makeup. Some are seducers, other predators. Both are users. 

[Lila9]

22 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I don't think it's misogyny, I think the problem stems from the fact that our society has internalized the idea that ultimate happiness comes from romantic relationships, where you are chosen, accepted, and loved. The reality is very different; relationships are almost always a source of anxiety, unhappiness, and lies because people are seeking something to get of the relationship. 

Then there are people who take it a step further and see domination, power, and the humiliation of the other person as the maximum . They are always seeking happiness in the other person, but in different ways depending on their emotional makeup. Some are seducers, other predators. Both are users. 

Yes, but you conflate a failed romantic relationship with sexual violence.

This is not the same. Those who rape their drugged wives, and the men who consume this content, do not do this because of a failed romance.

Men commit 97–99% of sexual violence. 91% of the victims are women, while 9% of the victims are men.

Why are men responsible for so much sexual violence, or at least silent or indifferent about the sexual violence of other men? Because there is a systemic reason for that. They were all socialized under patriarchy, which enables and encourages such behavior in men. It ties manhood to the domination of women’s bodies. It's a systemic issue.

https://www.humboldt.edu/supporting-survivors/educational-resources/statistics

 

[Jacob Morres]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

 

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

At the same time I'm not gonna pretend like I'm some expert on the topic and there are many different ways to look at it

Id def recommend taking some reputable courses from a university on feminism if you are interested. They go very in depth and cover a lot of topics. I took one in college and looking back - it was extremely well grounded in high quality principles. Some ppl say "oh its leftist dogma". But, idr any dogma at all from my courses. Professors and students are super chill too because essentially everyone is contemplating together, pretty unbiasedly 

Edited 4 hours ago by Jacob Morres

[Rafael Thundercat]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

I don't think it's misogyny, I think the problem stems from the fact that some people in our society has internalized the idea that ultimate happiness comes from romantic relationships, where you are chosen, accepted, and loved. The reality is very different; although  we have some mature individuals living healthy relationships, some relationships  are toxic and  a source of anxiety, unhappiness, and lies because people are seeking something to get of the relationship. 

Then there are people who take it a step further and see domination, power, and the humiliation of the other person as the maximum ( When this other person is Women we say it is Misogyny) . They are always seeking happiness in the other person, but in different ways depending on their emotional makeup. Some are seducers, other predators. Both are users. So reframing I think is actually Misogyny. 

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Id def recommend taking some reputable courses from a university on feminism if you are interested. They go very in depth and cover a lot of topics. I took one in college and looking back - it was extremely well grounded in high quality principles. Some ppl say "oh its leftist dogma". But, idr any dogma at all from my courses. Professors and students are super chill too because essentially everyone is contemplating together, pretty unbiasedly

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Rafael Thundercat