Rape Academy Case

[Terell Kirby]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Rafael Thundercat I have read and seen so much human depravity and corruption at the point that I am disillusioned. Little outrages me anymore.

Awesome- quite an achievement, eh?

[Rafael Thundercat]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The rape academy is horrific, but no more horrific than the thousands of brothels in every city in the world where women from broken homes and impoverished countries are forced to have sex with random men from the beginning of the civilization.

In Morocco, there is enormous sex tourism from all over the Arab world. In Southeast Asia, 12-year-old girls prostitute themselves on the streets in plain sight. I have personally seen elderly Arab men crossing the border between Senegal and Mauritania with 12-year-old black girls who will never see their families again.

Throughout much of the Muslim world, forced marriages are common and child marriage is legal. Literally, 10-year-old girls are sold to old men to be raped for the rest of their lives.

 

Read The book"  Debt the first 5.000 years" by David Graeber. It may not have the whole clues for the sex slavery beginnings but is a start

https://www.amazon.com.br/Debt-Updated-Expanded-First-Years/dp/1612194192/ref=asc_df_1612194192?mcid=3f305496814d3be6bfa4a7e90cbcecac&tag=googleshopp06-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=709857070686&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4922552007677582853&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1031692&hvtargid=pla-406163964913&psc=1&hvocijid=4922552007677582853-1612194192-&hvexpln=0&language=pt_BR

You cant understand the world by intuition or just looking to actual situations. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

19 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

thousands of brothels in every city in the world where women from broken homes and impoverished countries are forced to have sex with random men from the beginning of the civilization.

And what you think is Civilization? Patriarchy have a say about it. Sex is about pleasue but also about Reproduction, about Power. Connect the dots, do your contemplation. I cant think for you. I just share.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DNLXWJcOZs1/?img_index=1&igsh=aWZndGZ0eTU5MjBv

Why this girls are from broken homes? Why from impoverished courties? They Just simply became poor girls from broken homes like magic? No, that why systemic thinking is needed. 

And taking about thinking,  a remined here for when man say that woman are to emotional:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWR8oQ2gFqo/?igsh=NWNieW53eTc1MmQw

Man are freaking emotional. They are just good in posing as stoic. The shadow is there, you cant deny emotions, what you dont be conscious about will manifest unconsciously. Yeah, one step gor men heal is Shadow Work. Women cant do that for us.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Rafael Thundercat

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

And what you think is Civilization? Patriarchy have a say about it. Sex is about pleasue but also about Reproduction, about Power. Connect the dots, do your contemplation. I cant think for you. I just share.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DNLXWJcOZs1/?img_index=1&igsh=aWZndGZ0eTU5MjBv

 

 

9 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

You cant understand the world by intuition or just looking to actual situations

It can be understood. Human sexuality is asymmetrical. Man's atavistic impulse to have sex with all women clashes with women's atavistic impulse to establish an unbreakable bond with only one man. This is evolution from bacteria, primordial forces that emerge from the selection of the most efficient.

These forces are unstoppable, and they make humanity a hyper-efficient evolutionary machine, regardless of the suffering or justice shown to individuals.

I'm not saying that I find it good , I think that humans have to transcend the animal impulse to exist in another phase of being. But it's important to understand what we are. The phase change will happen when the moment arrives, if it arrives, not before 

Edited 13 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Rafael Thundercat]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 

It can be understood. Human sexuality is asymmetrical. Man's atavistic impulse to have sex with all women clashes with women's atavistic impulse to establish an unbreakable bond with only one man. This is evolution from bacteria, primordial forces that emerge from the selection of the most efficient.

These forces are unstoppable, and they make humanity a hyper-efficient evolutionary machine, regardless of the suffering or justice shown to individuals.

I'm not saying that I find it good , I think that humans have to transcend the animal impulse to exist in another phase of being. But it's important to understand what we are. 

The core intuition has some grounding, but the framing overstates and distorts the science in several important ways.

**What holds up:**

- Sexual selection does produce different reproductive strategies across sexes in many species, including humans

- There's real evidence for asymmetry: sperm is cheap, eggs are costly; this creates divergent evolutionary pressures

- Concepts like mate guarding, paternity uncertainty, and pair bonding have legitimate evolutionary bases

**Where it breaks down:**

The "man wants all women / woman wants one man" binary is a significant oversimplification. The actual picture from evolutionary biology and anthropology is messier:

- Human females show evidence of*both* pair-bonding *and* strategic polyandry in the record

- Human males show strong pair-bonding capacity — arguably more than most primates

- Human sexuality appears to have evolved under *mixed* mating systems, not a clean asymmetry

- The claim that these are "unstoppable" forces contradicts the observable fact that humans constantly override reproductive impulses through culture, institution, and conscious choice

The deeper problem is the logical structure: taking one simplified model of evolutionary pressure and treating it as a complete description of human nature. Evolution shaped *tendencies and ranges*, not fixed programs. Humans are also, evolutionarily speaking, the species that *transcends* instinct most radically — that capacity is itself our nature.

Your conclusion — that humans should transcend these impulses — is actually more scientifically defensible than the deterministic framing that precedes it.

The instinct to understand the animal substrate is sound. The specific model needs more precision.

[Breakingthewall]

57 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

The deeper problem is the logical structure: taking one simplified model of evolutionary pressure and treating it as a complete description of human nature. Evolution shaped *tendencies and ranges*, not fixed programs. Humans are also, evolutionarily speaking, the species that *transcends* instinct most radically — that capacity is itself our nature.

Sure, humans act in different ways, we are not pure instinct like the animals, but if you take millions of humans you will see that instinct emerging everywhere. It doesn't have to be something primal like kidnapping women from another tribe; it manifests in much more subtle ways.

And in our civilization, it manifests as men performing the heron dance in nightclubs to try and get laid, mostly unsuccessfully, while women compete to see who is sexier. Or the casting in the apps, that is the casting of the disappointing 

When sex does happen, it's so corrupted by tons of status and hidden emotional implications that it becomes alienating for many. When couples do get together, their mutual demands are so unrealistic that they make harmony impossible, and they don't choose each other by real connection but for social status or covering emotional lack most of the cases. Pride and humiliation polluting everything. Real bonds because humans tend to emotional bond, but of dissatisfaction and lies in most of cases, because people dont understand themselves. Then it's not rare that perversion arise everywhere 

Edited 12 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Lila9]

49 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It can be understood. Human sexuality is asymmetrical. Man's atavistic impulse to have sex with all women clashes with women's atavistic impulse to establish an unbreakable bond with only one man. This is evolution from bacteria, primordial forces that emerge from the selection of the most efficient.

Human sexuality is neither monogamous or polyamorous. It's both. For both sexes.

 

[Lila9]

58 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Man are freaking emotional. They are just good in posing as stoic. The shadow is there, you cant deny emotions, what you dont be conscious about will manifest unconsciously. Yeah, one step gor men heal is Shadow Work. Women cant do that for us.

This is what I see as well. Men judge women for being emotional, but men are emotional too. Being human is being emotional.

This is why the version of manhood within patriarchy is false and doesn't match men's behavior in reality.

And yes, huge shadow work is required.

[Lila9]

This is a good map for understanding your emotions, by the way.

[Breakingthewall]

18 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Human sexuality is neither monogamous or polyamorous. It's both. For both sexes.

 

Yes but in average If you take a x number of 17-year-old boys and have them have sex with five random, attractive girls each week for a year, at the end of the year a very high percentage will say "hallelujah" and a small percentage will be depressed.

If you take a certain number of 17-year-old girls and do the same experiment, a large percentage will need therapy and in many cases medication, and a very small percentage (already present but low) will say: asucar! give me more 

[Lila9]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes but in average If you take a x number of 17-year-old boys and have them have sex with five random, attractive girls each week for a year, at the end of the year a very high percentage will say "hallelujah" and a small percentage will be depressed.

If you take a certain number of 17-year-old girls and do the same experiment, a large percentage will need therapy and in many cases medication, and a very small percentage (already present but low) will say: asucar! give me more 

When they grow up in a system which ties the male sexuality to manhood and status while female sexuality is tied to repression and shame then obviously this will be the result.

[Lila9]

People will go so far with various justifications and rationalizations for various phenomenon which can be easily explained by patriarchy. I see rational people fail to this trap because they involve their strong survival bias.

Where is the epistemological police? I want to report an epistemological crime.

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

When they grow up in a system which ties the male sexuality to manhood and status while female sexuality is tied to repression and shame then obviously this will be the result.

33 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

 

It has nothing to do with education. When I was 12, I would have sex with my cousins, my sister, and even animals, and in default, masturbation 3 times per day minimum. It's not because someone told me sex is manly or anything like that; it's because it's an animal instinct that appears at a certain moment and is non-negotiable.

For women, it's completely different. They also have that impulse, but it's channeled into receiving. Men give, women receive. So, men would fuck with goats, but women don't want to receive that monkey shit; they want attention, respect, love, status, and then sex. It's how the system is built . Education comes after, biology is before.

[Eskilon]

26 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Great image, thanks!!!

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 hour ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Capitalism + White Supremacy
Racial hierarchy justifies unequal wages, wealth gaps, and exploitation of non-white labor and land

Capitalism + Patriarchy
Gender hierarchy justifies unpaid domestic labor, wage gaps, and the commodification of women's bodies

White Supremacy + Patriarchy
Both rely on the same logic — the naturalization of hierarchy and the "othering" of those deemed inferior

I wouldn't personally lump in capitalism into that triad; capitalism led to a lot of positive material outcomes for the mankind such as increased life expectancy, scientific and industrial revolution, and higher living standards for the entire humanity in general. Capitalism is the kind of system that's emotionally unbiased and neutral, and it's form highly depends on the society, culture and individuals operating within it.

But regarding white supremacy + patriarchy you are correct in describing all colonial + post-colonial era exploitative European + US behaviour. Doesn't really exactly describe the past further than that, or outside of this narrow historical space-time window tho. I think what @Breakingthewall might have aluded to with his response to you, is that there are other cultures and "races" who have behaved (and are still somewhat behaving) in a very similiar, cruel way towards women and people in general. Other cultures waged imperial wars, had large empires, etc. I mean, how many central Asian tribes swept across Asia and Europe, destroying any settlement in their way. What about the past muslim imperialism (or the way their society is still structured now), what about the attrocious behaviour of American native tribes?

The gist of what I'm trying to convey here is that this intelectual framework only focuses on criticizing and deconstructing the kind of systems and people who are available to listen to these vents. You don't see a whole ton of these intelectuals in Afghanistan, for example. And it is the same way with this topic right here, essentially, 60 million men globally (assumming this number is correct) were involved in something heinous and unjustifiable, yes, we can see that and agree with that. And yes, we can safely assume that each of us dudes in here were programmed or pushed to some extent with a certain domination mindset that can be considered toxic in general, or in some circumstances (excluding the role of biology here). However, the irony of venting to us in particuliar, about the behaviour of some 60 million weirdos does not escape me, as well as thinking that you can erase existence of these crimes throught some theoretical intelectual deconstruction. And also asumming that we are somehow responsible for something 60 million weirdos globally were involved in. If you are so enraged, why don't you go punch each of those dudes in the face or something? What can be done other than prosecuting these dudes and putting those who acted illegally and immorally to jail or something?

[Lila9]

15 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Great image, thanks!!!

😊

17 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It has nothing to do with education. When I was 12, I would have sex with my cousins, my sister, and even animals, and in default, masturbation 3 times per day minimum. It's not because someone told me sex is manly or anything like that; it's because it's an animal instinct that appears at a certain moment and is non-negotiable.

For women, it's completely different. They also have that impulse, but it's channeled into receiving. Men give, women receive. So, men would fuck with goats, but women don't want to receive that monkey shit; they want attention, respect, love, status, and then sex. It's how the system is built . Education comes after, biology is before.

I was a teenager as well, and I remember experiencing very strong sexual impulses. This is a normal part of adolescent development, as this stage of life involves significant hormonal changes.

What distinguishes humans is the presence of a developed frontal cortex, which supports thoughtful decision-making and the ability to regulate impulses.

Teenagers may have weaker impulse control because the frontal cortex is still maturing during this period. This is why masturbation among teens is considered a healthy and normal aspect of sexual development because it allows them a safe and healthy release.

There are also adults whose frontal cortex development and the impulse control hasn't been fully developed due to factors such as genetics, socialization, or trauma.

I recommend to read this article about the myth of male hypersexuality:

https://razkia.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-male-hypersexuality

 

[VioleGrace]

6 hours ago, Ulax said:

I love some of your guys thinking but you just self-sabotage yourselves with these dramatic black-or-white arguments. 

100% they lost all credibility from long time in my eyes 

[VioleGrace]

5 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I did many tentatives with AI to understand the pattern

With these type of thinking to 

[enchanted]

1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

I recommend to read this article about the myth of male hypersexuality:

https://razkia.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-male-hypersexuality

 

Yes and why this myth is harmful is because it implicitly tells women they can't be hypersexual if they chose to be, and it makes HYPOsexual men feel inadequate, invisible, and encourages hypersexual activity (in order to be perceived as a man and causes a whole other set of problems). Myths like these are damaging to both sexes.

This is a large point of the book "The Myth of Male Power" that I shared with you. This "myth" (which I'll grant is not a myth in every way) is equally harmful in the exact same way especially in history books where basically only powerful men are mentioned. The truth is the majority of men feel powerless (and thats why they kill themselves in greater numbers) and the average powerless man and woman contributed immensely to history. 

And before you say "feminism is the solution to everything" realize that the mens liberation movement is heavily aligned with feminism. They have the same goal and want both sexes to rise together. 

Edited 10 hours ago by enchanted

[Willy Phallicus]

The weak are always at mercy of the strong.  If the strong are merciless then the weak are simply fucked.

I don't expect humans to achieve cosmic egalitarian utopia any more than chimpanzees will and just like in the case of chimpanzees its not really the humans fault.  We just don't have it in us and that's okay.  Better shit will emerge eventually - in the meantime anti patriarchal revolution is a sad waste of time.